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ThePeoplesChamp
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9elevenWasAnInsideJob
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Factory Farming is inhumane and the benefits don't outweigh the inhumanity.

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Started: 10/29/2015 Category: Health
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ThePeoplesChamp

Pro

Inhumane for the purposes of this debate means "without compassion, knowingly causing misery or cruelty." The way animals are treated in factory farms is sickening and cruel. Their living conditions are filthy, with no room to move, no room to breathe and no room to live. These innocent animals are being tortured for the "benefits" of feeding humans with cheap meat. These benefits do not outweigh the torture being done, especially since this unhealthy production isn't even healthy for the consumers.
9elevenWasAnInsideJob

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3 Pros of Factory Farming

1. Cheap
The cost of food is drastically reduced with the use of factory farms. This is because the food is produced and processed at a much faster rate, with more efficient processes involved.

2. Very Lucrative
The profit margin for these factory farms is large, this is because the proper care of animals is looked over, which is where much of farming costs lay. The areas in which these farms are located also provide them with cheap labor.

3. Lots of Job Opportunities
Factory farms are huge operations, that need a huge number of employees to ensure they run correctly. They offer a wide variety of job opportunities and economic stimulation to areas of the world that are in desperate need of this type of help.
Debate Round No. 1
ThePeoplesChamp

Pro

I agree that these reasons are beneficial to people and to the industries, but they are not THAT crucial and do not outweigh the cruelty being done to get the production and money. Speaking in terms of humanity towards these animals, they do not need to be treated this way for meat production to occur. I am not against humans consuming meat, but these animals can still be treated fairly during the time they are alive. It isn't hard to raise these animals without intentionally making them suffer. A typical farm animal doesn't live in luxury but they still have room to breath. This also puts consumers of that meat at risk for food borne illness due to the crowded and unsanitary conditions. Not to mention that the meat isn't even healthy for us, due to the the chemicals and antibiotics being pumped into the animals and they food the animals are eating. It is a lose-lose situation.
9elevenWasAnInsideJob

Con

So you agree with me that factory faming is beneficial to people. The average American family of 4 makes 2,300 dollars less than they did when Obama took office. I only bring this up to show how people aren't making what they use to, showing a demand for cheap meat to feed these people. Factory farm steak cost on average 4 times less than free-range farms (CNN-march 2015). These cheap meats don't strain the hard working American wallet and allow Americans to be well fed and not denying themselves essential protein needed for healthy individuals. Now to address this so called "cruelty" towards animals. This is a question of ethics and morality. Are animals capable of feeling the same pain and stress humans are? Are animals capable of suffering to the degree we "perceive" them to? The answer to both of those is a resounding NO! These aren't intelligent creatures capable of higher thought. A cow cant quote Nietzsche, a chicken can't write iambic pentameters, a turkey can't contemplate it's own mortality. Humans can do all of these things and more! Animals that receive poor treatment in factory farms don't have the moral worth over humans starving or barely getting the nutrition they need. I'm sure everyone would like to shop at Whole Foods and buy grass fed steaks but the simple truth is people cant. They need cheaper meats to survive and the while the treatment of some animals isn't up to par with animal activists that wont stop short of eating meat all together.
Debate Round No. 2
ThePeoplesChamp

Pro

This cheap meat can still be produced and sold for affordable prices without the abuse. It can still be of lesser quality than "grass fed steaks" due to what the animals are eating and the antibiotics they are given etc., but people are just lazy, inconsiderate, vain, and only care about profit. Cutting off the beaks of chickens with a hot razor blade, crushing "bad" chicks in a grinder while fully conscious, shocking chickens in an electric water bath while fully conscious before being slaughtered, keeping cows hooked up to milking machines until their utters become raw and swollen, docking the tails of cows, de-horning cows and castrating them without any type of pain relief, squeezing pigs into metal crates hardly larger than their own bodies disabling them to move or lay down, and pumping all animals with hormones until their weight is too much for their legs to hold causing them to become crippled, is not necessary to save a couple dollars.

Obviously humans are smarter than these animals but the size of their brains has nothing to do with this. They still have bones, blood running through their veins, nerves throughout their bodies and the ability to feel pain. It is not their fault that people don"t have the money for quality food. Once again, the consumers of this meat aren"t doing themselves any good either even if it gives them a meal that day. Eating this meat puts people at risk of antibiotic resistant bacteria, exposure to arsenic that can cause cancer, and onto a path leading to obesity and heart disease since the "protein" one may believe they are getting from their beef and chicken is mostly saturated fat. For those who can't afford food, there are still cheap food options out there that are harmless to make. It is obvious that these large factory-farming corporations could care less about these animals along with the well being of their consumers. Sure, they are saving you some money, but this cheaper production is still inhumane and does not outweigh all of the harm being done to not only the animals, but to you too.
9elevenWasAnInsideJob

Con

Please pray tell how they can still maintain their cheap prices when they starting using anesthetics!!! Those arnt cheap! That would drive up the cost exponentially. If you want to live in a fantasy world where animals can be raised cheaply without cutting corners then go ahead but for those of us that live in reality, we'll continue to eat meat and while these animals do suffer they don't trump human beings. Also 9/11 was an inside job! George Bush pulled WTC 7 and you expect people to believe Mohammad Atta could execute a 180 degree turn after learning how to fly only on a simulator!?!?! You all suckle at the tit of government and they feed you their lies like they feed you their dick!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by 9elevenWasAnInsideJob 1 year ago
9elevenWasAnInsideJob
If you believe that then you surely believe 9/11 was an inside job so Bush could invade the Middle East, get its oil then wean America off fossil fuels only and use that oil to negotiate more meat for the US. Full circle bro
Posted by chlln 1 year ago
chlln
If you strongly believe this then you must jump on the pro-abortion and population control bandwagon immediately. A future protein shortage is known, please read:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
or one of the many other reputable sources for the looming protein shortage.

As human population goes up demand and indeed requirement for protein from animals(B12) and other amino acids are needed to support a healthy population, the protein from non animal sources is drastically insufficient to support human life on earth and takes far more land in these protein supplies per gram of protein produced. In addition non animal source proteins have incomplete protein profiles that would cause medical conditions if relied on long term. Factory farming is required to sustain us as we overpopulate our planet to the point its resources can no longer support us. Niceities such as preventing animal farming become just as realistic as abolishing illicit drugs in the world(never going to happen) As long as the animals are kept free of pain and euthanize without pain(a moral construct made by man not nature) then I fully support animal farming as there is no alternative save for population control.
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