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animpossiblepossibility
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C-Mach
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Started: 8/2/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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animpossiblepossibility

Con

I challenge anyone to a debate to see who can provide the best viewpoint on a given topic using only fallacies/fallacious arguments. The topic is: To prevent aircraft hijacking and lower costs for airlines, all passengers are required to be nude while on the aircraft, and carry-on baggage is prohibited. Judging will be so: Whoever provides the most fallacies/fallacious arguments that a.make sense, b.contribute to their overall argument, c.are diversified (not the same), and d.can be fitted within the 1,000 character limit wins the debate. The rounds will be so: Round 1:opponent provides arguments, Round 2:I provide arguments, opponent forfeits. Let the games begin :)
C-Mach

Pro

Thank you, animpossiblepossibility.

As we well know, passengers should be required to be nude on all flights, which I will prove to you in one-thousand characters or less.

Argument One:
If you are nude, you cannot take various concealed weapons onto an aircraft. For example, Johnny has a switchblade made out of plastic. If he went through a normal metal detector, he would be able to take the weapon on board and possibly stab numerous innocent passenger. If he did not have his clothing, however, this would not be possible, as it would be very difficult to sneak it in various other ways. Hijackings would be much less likely if this policy were put into effect.

Argument Two:
If you are nude, you weigh less than if you wear clothing. It normally does not make any difference, but when you have three hundred people on board an aircraft, that's a lot of extra weight. It takes more fuel to haul that many passengers. So, it is cheaper for the airlines to implement this nudity policy.
Debate Round No. 1
animpossiblepossibility

Con

To prevent hijacking and lower costs, all airline passengers should not be nude while on an aircraft .

My opponent is a Libertarian, therefore his arguments should be null. Nude beaches are not globally accepted; therefore passengers should not be nude. Most people wear clothes; therefore passengers should not be nude. If people were nude, someone might die from shock; therefore passengers should not be nude. C-Mach, that is a nice picture you have; by the way, passengers should not be nude. Nudity is a thing of the past; therefore passengers should not be nude. My opponent wants passengers to be nude, but that is just ridiculous; therefore passengers should not be nude. C-Mach is from California, and we all know they all get every issue wrong; therefore passengers should not be nude. I polled 2 people and they agree with my view; therefore passengers should not be nude. I am older than my opponent; seniority system exists in the world; therefore all passengers should not be nude.
C-Mach

Pro

I have a genius IQ, therefore my opponent's arguments should be null. Nudity let's you feel the air; therefore passengers should be nude. People will be more attracted to each other on the plane than anywhere else; therefore passengers should be nude. My opponent is a Christian and opposes nudity; therefore passengers should be nude. Most people don't care about this subject; therefore passengers should be nude. Decency laws are bureaucratic f*ckups; therefore passengers should be nude. Anonymous supports public nudity; therefore passengers should be nude. There is a lot of nude art; therefore passengers should be nude. My opponent has a debate.org percentile of 48.17; therefore passengers should be nude. Frat-boys enjoy streaking; therefore passengers should be nude. Indecency is patriotic; therefore passengers should be nude. Strippers could strip inside the aircraft without anyone knowing; therefore passengers should be nude. I win; therefore passengers should be nude.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by animpossiblepossibility 7 years ago
animpossiblepossibility
ok, its up there
Posted by MTGandP 7 years ago
MTGandP
"animposssiblepossibility, if you challenge me to one of these I will accept as long as it's two rounds instead of one."

Actually never mind, I'm just going to instigate one.
Posted by MTGandP 7 years ago
MTGandP
I am not going to count any of C-Mach's last round arguments, since he was supposed to forfeit.

C-Mach's case was much better, but he had no fallacies. Here's what I counted for animpossiblepossibility:

ad hominem II
non sequitur IV
appeal to majority III
appeal to novelty I
appeal to ridicule I
appeal to authority I

It would be interesting to see this with some real arguments. animposssiblepossibility, if you challenge me to one of these I will accept as long as it's two rounds instead of one.

RFD
B/A: Con
conduct: Con -- Pro argued in the last round.
S&G: Pro -- Con's first round was badly formatted.
Arguments: Con -- Pro's arguments were better, but Con had many more fallacies.
Sources: Tie
Posted by animpossiblepossibility 7 years ago
animpossiblepossibility
Ah yes, but in this debate only fallacious arguments are allowed.
Posted by RoyLatham 7 years ago
RoyLatham
Most hijackers are Muslim extremists. Muslim extremists are deeply humiliated by nudity, therefore ...

It will be much easier to spot a fuse protruding from ...

Exceptions must be made for religious reasons, and a bomb might be hidden in a mandated turban.

There many ways for a nude person to conceal bombs or weapons. A sword swallower ... <other examples>
Posted by animpossiblepossibility 7 years ago
animpossiblepossibility
Hey you got two stabs at it, no fair :) Its ok though, this debate is pretty much a joke anyways.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
Never mind, he really meant "forfeit".
Posted by animpossiblepossibility 7 years ago
animpossiblepossibility
Ok changed.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
I was going to say that, Kleptin, but I think by "forfeit", he meant pass it back to CON.
Posted by Kleptin 7 years ago
Kleptin
You should redo this. If your opponent accepts and forfeits the first round as per your request, the debate will be cancelled by DDO.
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Vote Placed by C-Mach 7 years ago
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