The Instigator
Farooq
Con (against)
Losing
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The Contender
Puck
Pro (for)
Winning
21 Points

Farooq will win this debate

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/1/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Farooq

Con

The choice is obvious, for I will most certainly not win this debate because I have decided to waste people's time with an issue as petty as this, when there are far more interested and spirited conversations going on elsewhere. Therefore such people will grow angry with my insolence, and vote against the agitator (me), thus making it far harder to achieve victory in terms of words.

In addition to this when a person casts their virtual ballot for either me or my opponent (already upset with me) they will look at the current number of votes I received and try ot counteract it, for if I'm leading they will realize I made a faulty prediction and vote against me. As the polls begin to get into closer margins of course, others will counteract this and vote for me for they see a chance I'm right. Overall the votes should balance, except that I will vote against myself and no doubt my opponent will to imp rive his track record, and me to prove myself correct. Therefore these 2 swing votes, cast at the end, will tip the balance in my opponent's favour causing me to lose.
Puck

Pro

Voting does not cease. There is no objective measure for the end of voting. There can be no win or loss declared for either debater. It is simply an ongoing process of accumulation.
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
Logical-Master
edit:

I meant to say that " . . . it is rather apparent that you do nothing more than fight against the notion that this debate was winnable."
Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
Logical-Master
Ah, now I see what you're saying. I had been under the impression that you were attempting to debate within the context of this debate. In terms of the context CON is referring to, he defines being ahead at any point as being victory. His evidence for the idea that he will lose is that he would vote against himself and that you would vote against him as well. He acknowledges that voting never ceases, hence the explanation in his second paragraph.

And I forgot to mention something earlier. Pro's position in this debate is to defend the notion that "Farooq will win this debate", yet it is rather apparent that you do nothing more to fight against the notion that anyone could win. At the very least, I'd consider this debate a double loss (least being in favor of CON, since PRO argues against his position). Definitely don't see how PRO is winning though.
Posted by josh_42 9 years ago
josh_42
well yeah but you still loss
Posted by Farooq 9 years ago
Farooq
See I was right! By losing the debate so far, I have been proved correct
Posted by Puck 9 years ago
Puck
I have lost/won is an end statement. I am winning/losing is a fluid one. I could of argued that he would win or I could argue (as I did) that it is not possible to actually lose.
Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
Logical-Master
Not really. If he is leading in votes, then he has won the debate. If he is not leading in votes, then he has lost. Just because the process won't end (which is actually an assumption on your part, but I won't get into that) doesn't mean their will be no win or loss. Rather, he can keep winning and losing.
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Reasons for voting decision: pro ignores his part of the BoP, and merely proves Farooq will neither win nor lose this debate
Vote Placed by Logical-Master 9 years ago
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