Fat Shaming is Never Okay
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I am not a skinny girl but any means. I have big boobs and bit of a belly. However, I am fine with this. Yes, it could work harder to become skinny but I don't want to nor do I feel the need to. I am fine the way I am. I'm not saying that I shouldn't try to be healthier but that doesn't mean I have to not enjoy foods I love.
Being fat isn't a sin. And don't bring me the whole 'Gluttony is a sin thing' because that doesn't apply. The definition of gluttony is the act or habit of eating or drinking too much, not being fat. Just because a person is fat does not mean a person is less of a person. It just means they are bigger. Some people don't mind being fat and other people have health problems. Then, there are people who want to loose weight. That is fine but it is never okay to just hate someone because they are fat. It is stupid and close minded
I accept this debate because even though fat shaming can be done, its only not ok some of the time.
Pro is arguing that fat shaming is NEVER okay, im arguing that sometimes it can be justified.
Now then: scenarios for which fat shaming, or shaming people for being fat, is sometimes justified
1) Using their fatness to skip lines at Disney
At Disney world, people who are fat as sh** who need rascals or those scooters to get around routinely are allowed to skip lines to get on rides before other people. Problem is: most of them arent actually disabled, theyre just f*cking fat as f*ck and are using their fat f*ckedness to skip lines and ride rides, simply for being fat.
Im not making this up either, this problem was so bad that Disney actually chose to scrap the whole thing of letting fat disabled people go on rides first primarily because too many fatties were exploiting the system.
So if someone is using their fatness to immorally cut lines at theme parks, then fat-shaming them is certainly justifiable in that case.
2) In medieval times, Kings would over indulge as a way to show off to the world that they had food and were rich
Gluttonous monarchs often became gluttons simply because they over-indulged in luxuries that were showered upon them that they earned in no way whatsoever.... They did it simply because they could. The portly Marie Antoinette infamously said 'let them eat cake' when told of poor people not having soup partly because she was a fat f*cker who obviously showed little empathy for the less fortunate masses.
So, shaming monarchs for being fat, over-indulging, narcissists is also justifiable to a degree.
3) Some people are really, really f*cking fat for no reason.
If you are portly because of a genetic problem or because no matter how hard you try you cant lose weight, then there is no excuse to make fun of them or shame them for genuinely being fat and being unable to escape it..... But on the other half of the equation there are the fatties who weight 350 pounds easy and simply eat and eat and eat, all the time, almost non-stop, simply because they have no self control.
People who do not have self control are shamed all the time and its justifiable to do so..... Kids who dont control what they say or how they act are shamed for being such annoying little bastards, women who whore themselves out and dont control who they sleep with are shamed for being such whores, and fat people who dont control how much they eat and how fat and obnoxious they become are also shamed for not having self control like the others.
There are degrees and cases where fat shaming is in some cases okay, and to say that its NEVER okay is irrational.
Some people are fat because they want to be. It's not a big deal.
As for the whole Disney thing, I don't really see where that comes into play. So some people were jerks and were abusing the system. They were fat but the main focus was they were being rude and not thinking of others.
The kings thing is true but that was years ago. I don't know anyone in this day and age who would do that.
If a person is fat, they are fat. We can't change that so we might as well leave them alone
"So what if some people are fat? Does it really matter? No, it doesn't."
Wow, what a great argument! How could I ever argue against such amazing logic and reasoning?
My argument is that sometimes it does matter whether or not someone is fat, why they are fat, and whether or not they use their fatness to exploit the system given the circumstances, as mentioned before.
"If they aren't bothering you, then why should you care?"
Because if people use their fat to exploit the system and get benefits they didnt earn, or are fat because they completely lack self control, or are fat just to rub it in to peasants they rule over, then that is a shameful thing to do and therefore can be shamed.
"As for the whole Disney thing, I don't really see where that comes into play. So some people were jerks and were abusing the system. They were fat but the main focus was they were being rude and not thinking of others."
Yeah, and being flat out rude and selfish is a shameful in a blatantly obvious exploitation of a system meant to help the disabled is truly a shameful thing to do, making fat-shaming justifiable.
"The kings thing is true but that was years ago. I don't know anyone in this day and age who would do that."
That doesnt matter though. The debate is that fat shaming is never okay, meaning it never will be or has been okay.
You conceded that Kings did exactly that, so you basically concede that argument and therefore concede the debate.
"If a person is fat, they are fat. We can't change that so we might as well leave them alone"
By that logic a rapist is a rapist, and we cant change that so we might as well leave them alone too...... And thats a f*cking stupid argument to make.
Mockery forfeited this round.
imabench forfeited this round.
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Vote Placed by bladerunner060 2 years ago
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