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Feist is possibly one of the most powerful characters ever to set foot in a comic book.

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Mikal
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/6/2014 Category: Funny
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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yomama12

Pro

First round acceptance. Feist is the panda-like Mobian that is from the world of the Sonic the Hedgehog comic books, produced by Archie comics. He resides in the special zone, and is basically a living God. State a character from a comic book you think could beat Feist.

Here's the scenario battle:

Feist and so and so will be battling in Feist's Special Zone, since that is where he gets his powers from. Each character will have all of their abilities, strengths, and weaknesses. No outside help is allowed. No forfeits. Any of these rules broken will result in a 7 point forfeit to me. Only people who have read the Sonic comic books will know what I'm talking about, so only they can really debate this topic with me. If there are any trolls who accept this, and then keep forfeiting: I will repost this debate for other people to try, and keep doing so until someone actually posts an argument.

-2nd round:arguments

-3rd round: rebuttals

I wish you dudes all the best.
Mikal

Con

I accept

Using Superman Prime
Debate Round No. 1
yomama12

Pro

before I start the argument, i need to ask you, have you read the Sonic Comic Books, or did you just pull Superman randomly against a god.

1: Feist is a god

In the Special Zone, Feist can do practically invincible, and basically do whatever the f*ck he wants. He was the one that molded hundreds of Chaos Emeralds into the 7 we know and love today. Almost nobody ever completes his challenges to get them, as he often cheats to get his way. Of course though, Sonic pulled through, and that's why the 7 Emeralds are in use in the video games. Being a god means that Feist is practically invulnerable, and he can do basically any attack, and that includes Kryptonite barrages and stuff along that route. Nothing can beat Feist, and he often knows his opponent's weaknesses, so he can pul out a Kryptonite planet, or energy from a RED Sun. Superman, even his Prime form, doesn't stand a chance against the godly figure of Feist.
Mikal

Con

Resolution- Feist is possibly one of the most powerful characters ever to set foot in a comic book.

Why I will win

If I can show any possible character is just as strong or stronger than feist, the resoultion is not upheld. That means if any possible comic book character ever or in the future could tie him in terms of power or surpass him by adversary fails to uphold the BOP

Some people who could possibly tie him in terms of power

Superman
Superman Prime
Captain Marvel
The World destroyer hulk
Goku
God Goku
Beerus
Galactus

There are countless others but my adversary wants to do this as a battle so I elect superman prime.


C1) Superman Prime abilities

Lets break down how powerful superman prime is

Superman Prime is a version of superman that sun dipped for 15,000 years. Superman once sundipped and came out at 3x his normal level.




Now superman prime sundipped for 15,000 years. Lets do the math on this but first we need to calculate his initial power levels.


Superman should be able to lift around 6,600,000,000,000,000,000 Tons (6.6 Quintillion Tons)
His striking force is also around 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10 Octillion megatons)

Now if superman sunbathed for 15 mins and came out 3 x as powerful, thing about 15,000 years

At this point his lifting potential would be around 10,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Ton (10.4 Octillion Tons)

and his striking force would be at 15,800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 megatons (15.8 Undecillion megatons)

Sourced [2]

You would basically calculate it in the sense of this 15 min = 3x so 1hour = 12x

each day would be 288 x his power level.

with 365 days in a year x 288 that would be = 105,120 for on year

now 105,120 being on year we now multiple this by 15,000

you get in total 1,576,800,000

His power is multiplied by 1 billion 5 hundred 76 million and 800 thousand times.

You would multiple the initial level times that number to gain the increased amount. This is true for speed, striking , lifting, and special abilities. Note this is also true for durability, the regular superman has survived a supernova and was only unconscious after it. Multiply this by the same amount and think how you would even damage him. It would be impossible.


In addition to this superman prime was able to destroy solaris in a single hit [1][2].

C2) The battle

My adversaries assumption relies on the fact that feist resides in the special zone. This could take place at any given point in time and feist is prone to give out chaos crystal to people who complete his challenges[3]. His power relies on the chaos crystals so the more he is missing the weaker he is.

A) why he would lose

If they fought outside of the special zone, superman prime would win in the blink of an eye for obvious reasons since feist relies on the khaoz zone to be powerful

B) Inside the khaoz zone, superman prime is strong enough to blow up the entire dimension to make the fight take place outside. Before he even entered, he posses the capability of blowing up the entire sonic universe and every planet in it along with the special zone. Remember he destroyed a sun with the flick of a finger.


C) There is no possible attack that could harm Superman Prime

Superman survived a supernova and now you are dealing with someone that can withstand 1 and a half billion times the amount of damage of a supernova. The entire universe and every possible universe would have to be destroyed for him to die.




Even if a red sun or kryptonite was used, the amount of durability and strength superman prime has would hardly be effected by it. In fact it would hardly even phase him at his current level.


D) Special zone [4]

Again this is a universe. Superman has the ability to destroy galaxies and universes. There are an infinite number of possible universes. Superman also once destroyed an entire galaxy with a sneeze.








Conclusion

There is no possible attack feist could use to harm superman prime, and superman prime could simply destroy the entire sonic universe if he wished along with the special zone.


Note : If any possible comic book character is stronger than feist my adversary loses, I just took up defense of 1 of them



[1] http://dc.wikia.com...(DC_One_Million)
[2] http://www.comicvine.com...
[3] http://archiesonic.wikia.com...
[4] http://sonic.wikia.com...(Sonic_the_Comic)
Debate Round No. 2
yomama12

Pro

yomama12 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
yomama12

Pro

In the archie comics web, it said that Feist could ultimatly turn off anybody else's abilities as long as they are in the special zone, so Superman Prime is utterly useless against the God of the Special Zone.
Mikal

Con

Yeah sadly this is over

I remain to the point that superman prime could practically destroy the entire sonic universe including the special zone without ever entering it. My adversary seems to have given up
Debate Round No. 4
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Reasons for voting decision: FF third round, no sources cited from pro. Pro also seemed to have absolutely no knowledge, and neglected to read cons second round.
Vote Placed by bladerunner060 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct for the forfeit. Pro failed to really rebut Pro's case. The best he came up with was that INSIDE the zone, Feist could "ultimately" turn off powers. He doesn't explain how, or how long it would take. Con's rebuttal was weak--the R1 setup explained that the battle WOULD be in the Special Zone, but Pro's argument doesn't stand prima facie, really. A half-hearted attempt at best from Pro. As always, happy to clarify this RFD.
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Reasons for voting decision: FF