Feminism is Wrong
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Feminism in it's current form is a terrible sexist movement that needs to die a quick and painful death. First wave feminism was about gaining equal rights. Second wave feminism was about gaining respect. Third wave intersectional feminism is not about those ideals. It is about making women superior to men.
"the power not to be judged by the fact that we are WOMEN doing MANLY things" - People get judged for everything they are and everything they do. It is human nature to evaluate people. I never heard of this being a problem for women. Seeing a woman do some major welding on the frame of a classic car is unusual but most men would enjoy seeing it. I have no idea what you think the problem is.
"Women are treated like they are only good enough to take care of their husband (boyfriend or lover as well) for their sexual needs and their hunger" - Who does that? What is this, the 1950s? I am calling BS! In modern western society women are not viewed this way. There are some dummies who do but that is rare and our society as a whole looks at them like they are fools.
"Then, on top of that women are paid WAY less than men." - Are you sure about that or are you just stating random figures that compare men's and women's earnings overall?
"I looked on this site www.iwpr.org it says " Women, in 2015 were paid 80 cents for every dollar made by men ."" - Yeah, you are comparing overall figures. Men are not "paid" more. Men "earn" more. Men go into higher paying and more dangerous jobs. That means they get paid more. It is only natural for oil miners to be paid more than a middle school teacher. Women tend to be teachers while men go off and risk their lives on an oil rig.
2 of your points are identical and flat out wrong. If you truly believe this then you are fighting AGAINST the woman's right to decide for herself what she wants to do. You are saying women should go for jobs where they can earn more money instead of jobs they truly want. You think women get paid less for the same identical job but that is flat out wrong and illegal. I think we have a feminist paradox where feminism is saying women should have less rights!
"Women choose lower paying and more comfortable jobs while men do more dangerous and higher paying jobs".
No, not all women do. Some women, such as my aunt, work at places such as Olin Brass Company ( where I'm from). So this just knocks that rebuttal out the ball park. Women ARE just as capable as men. Women aren't as strong, but they are wise, just as men, and can do things.
"There are some dummies who do but that is rare and our society as a whole looks at them like they are fools" Well where I was from, it was common. I seen this all the time. It was just something that looked normal in my city. This, for that reason caused us to leave the city. We didn't ever go back there, and haven't ever went back to this day.
"Women tend to be teachers while men go off and risk their lives in an oil rig." Well, in this case you're stating that its almost unethical to find a woman working in an oil rig, because they would rather be teachers. Well, that's basically a sexist statement in itself.
"I think we have a feminist paradox where feminism is saying women should have less rights!" You are correct, in a stand point. But, you are also wrong. Because, what I am fighting for in feminism, and sexism is that everyone can do everything, and not be judged for it.
It's something that I feel I stand for. You have very valid points, but I'm still going to believe in that everyone needs to be equal. Women, African American, Caucasian American ! We all are missing our equality.
"No, not all women do." Correct, but it is the overall trend that women in general choose specific types of jobs. They can go work in a dangerous and higher paying job if they want to but they don't. Women are not as capable as men in some areas. When the job requires strength and physical stamina it is rare that a woman can do the job as well as a man. Lifting really heavy things is not something most women would even want to do for a living.
I used to work in a copper/brass factory. It had a few women. They worked in the shipping department, cleanest and safest part of the company.
"you're stating that its almost unethical to find a woman working in an oil rig, because they would rather be teachers." - Well if women want to be teachers they should be teachers. That is just what society is. Women can work on oil rigs if they want to and are physically capable but that is not what they want to do.
" everyone can do everything, and not be judged for it." - No, not at all. Women can't be a starting QB in the NFL. Men cannot play in the WNBA. If Bruce Jenner tries to be in the olympics as a female he should be judged for it.
My young opponent has done a decent job but said nothing that makes this new wave feminism appealing. Feminists won the argument a long time ago and need to stop arguing. Nothing can be done to close the wage gap because it is a byproduct of choices women make. Now feminism is nothing but making women superior. They want to make it appear that men are nothing but perverted woman hating bullies. There are many feminists who are outright man haters (Andrea Dworkin).
"Now feminism is nothing but making women superior." In some cases, it is. But in most cases over 60 percent of people don't even want anything but to be equal to men. http://www.huffingtonpost.com... . If you don't believe me there's an article.
" There are many feminists who are outright man haters (Andrea Dworkin) ." Yes, but do you even know how many women/men are even feminists? less than 30 percent. https://www.washingtonpost.com... . However, women who want to be superior to men are NOT feminist, that is actually called Misandry, the hatred of men
Look in to many reasons. Don't judge off the first thing you see. Feminism is the equality of the sexes. Thank you for this debate. Hope to see you in another debate.
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