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Feminism is relevant in the 21st Century

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Started: 4/5/2013 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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tunde25

Con

I do not believe that nowadays, in Western culture, women are oppressed by men. The laws in most developed countries nowadays make it very fair for both genders and I have never seen any intention from males to discriminate against women. I invite anyone to argue for the idea of feminism is important currently against me.

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Claira

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I think that it is actually relevant even in the 21st century because it is still a problem in western countries. Yes, there are many women who go out to work but there are still women out there who aren't allowed to do this. Some men still believe that the woman's duty is to fulfill their needs and to stay at home and be the obedient wife who takes care of the house, waiting for them until they get back. In fact, in countries like Pakistan and India, women are still regarded very lowly. The men's needs are to be attended to before the wife can attend to hers.
Debate Round No. 1
tunde25

Con

Thanks for the response.
Firstly, I understand what you're saying about Pakistan and India but as we are talking about Western culture they aren't really relevant in this discussion.
Secondly, your point about women not being allowed to work, this kind of discrimination is against the law in pretty much all western nations (Europe, USA, Canada and Australia just to name a few) In fact, some companies have specific guidelines meaning they have to employ a certain number of females to their workforce.
Also, the majority of men do not believe it's a woman's duty to be a housewife, that idea has been thrown out since the nineties - female and male unemployment is relatively similar.
Claira

Pro

Yes, but what exactly is their position at work? If you were to go to many work places, the boss or the one in charge is still usually a man. And women are still considered the weaker gender. Yes, the number of working women has increased but their position is still quite low. The laws have made a difference but how much of a difference? It's like how it is against the law to discriminate people for their race. People still do it but in a more discreet manner or in a way that they cannot be faulted. Just because laws have been passed about women being treated fairly does not mean that everyone will abide by the the rules

And when you say feminism is not relevant in western countries, you are talking about the modern people in these countries. There are still families who are very religious or, in a way, "old-fashioned" and still follow the gender discrimination where the men are the head of the families and that their decisions matter most. These cases are not looked at because the women themselves are too afraid to speak up on their behalf or they don't even know its wrong. Sometimes, religious beliefs and the laws clash and the women are just caught up in the middle or fear doing anything because it has been going on for generations in their family. They believe that there is no other way; that they are merely following in the other's footsteps. This does still happen in western countries. Maybe not in very modernised places like New York or Washington but in other less modern parts where everything is very traditional.

Another example is the percentage of women in politics. Only about 20% of women are in the political field when half the population is of women. The percentage has increased and yes there is a number of powerful women in politics but the ratio of men to women in politics is still not equal. The reason that it is even increasing is because feminists are trying to push for their rights. This is the time when it is important for women to continue to argue for their rights so that they will be equal. If these women are to stop at this point just when they are about to get what they want, all their hard work would go to waste. The time they stop should be the time when both genders are equal, not during this critcial point in time when women are just starting to get what they have been fighting for for so long.
Debate Round No. 2
tunde25

Con

tunde25 forfeited this round.
Claira

Pro

All in all, I believe that women have their rights, same as men. They should be able to express their opinions openly and be able to fight for their rights. Yes, women are getting stronger but that does not mean that they can stop. They have to continue until both genders are equal. Some men still regard women lowly even now in the 21st century. When the gender discrimination really stops, the women shall stop. But that time is. Not. Now.
Debate Round No. 3
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