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Leugen9001
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Feminist ideology

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Started: 6/3/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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AceAttorney01

Con

Rules:
1) No name calling/personal attacks
2) All claims MUST be backed by a citation or evidence of some kind
3) All citations must be from reliable unbiased sources (no feminism or antifeminism propaganda websites)
The argument:
Feminist believers claim to fight for "equal rights and non-violence" but they really promote the exact opposite - hate speech and hatred for the opposite sex.
see https://www.youtube.com...

and Feminists become violent at Farrell speaking event - YouTube

and This is what feminism looks like at University of Toronto - YouTube
they ask men not to "cat-call" but yet they wish to show their breasts and expose their nipple with the "free the nipple" movement.
The claim:
third wave feminism is a contradictory blemish on the fabric of society that should be removed swiftly and tactfully.
Leugen9001

Pro

Introduction

In a world where women are systematically discriminated against, female equality is still a goal that ought to be achieved, even in the Western world. Because feminism helps in achieving female equality, I am proud to argue that third wave feminism is not a blemish on the fabric of society that should be removed swiftly.
Signpost

I shall first refute my opponent’s points, then put forward my own. My case shall consist of two points: the existence of inequality, and how feminism would help.
Rebuttal

1. Feminism is violent

My opponent has taken a few examples of feminists being violent, and somehow used it to reach the conclusion that feminism itself is a “blemish” on society. While individual feminists can be violent, my opponent has drawn the conclusion that it makes feminism itself contradictory; however, this is untrue because the hypocrisy of a few members doesn’t discredit or make hypocritical an entire movement.
For instance, extremist pro-lifers have murdered abortion clinic operators, but this doesn’t make the pro-life movement self-contradictory; it only means some of its members are hypocritical. [1]
2. Catcalling

My opponent has argued that showing one’s breasts yet trying to prevent catcalling is self-contradictory. This is wrong. Feminism strives for equality; men are allowed to be topless, yet they are rarely catcalled. Thus, allowing females to be topless yet not be catcalled is a step towards equality and not incorrect in any way.
3. Is my opponent’s claim justified?

My opponent has claimed that third wave feminism is a self-contradictory movement that should be removed swiftly. However, this claim hasn’t been justified by his arguments. He has not shown that feminism is self-contradictory to the point that it needs to be banned; many movements have hypocritical members, and they are not banned. He has also not shown that feminism is overall a detriment to society, only ridiculing feminist ideas without explaining why they’re wrong and raising a few examples of feminist violence that are dwarfed by the violence from fringe members of other legitimate movements. On principle, movements like the pro-life movement are legitimate, even if a few members are violent; feminism ought to be held under the same principle and be accepted as a legitimate movement.
Necessity of feminism

In today’s world, female inequality is prevalent, even in Western countries; some inequalities are caused by direct discrimination, while others are simply holdovers, parts of olden-day society that haven’t been updated to ensure equality. For instance, only 31.6% of senior management roles are held by women in Canada[2]. Rape of women by men is rarely reported[3], and a significant portion of the population believes that it is okay to rape drunk people—the majority of rape victims are female. [4] With all these facts, it is easy to see that women are discriminated against.
How feminism helps

Feminism helps with the problem of inequality because it brings light to the issues. By telling corporations about all the inequalities that women face in the workplace, feminists help make them aware of the situation and make changes. First and second wave feminism worked, so third wave feminism likely will, too.

Conclusion

Despite logic and reason dictating otherwise, my opponent has tried to paint feminism as a contradictory blemish that ought to be removed, when it is really a necessary and legitimate social movement. He has failed to upheld his claim. As such, let it be resolved that this house believes that feminism isn’t a blemish on society.

Debate Round No. 1
AceAttorney01

Con

AceAttorney01 forfeited this round.
Leugen9001

Pro

Extend all arguments. Pro has failed to prove that feminism is a blemish on society, only providing a few examples of extreme feminists despite the fact that all legitimate political movements can have their fringes. In addition, even if feminism was bad, Pro has utterly failed to prove that feminism is bad enough to necessitate a complete ban--a "swift and tactful" removal of the ideology from society.
Debate Round No. 2
AceAttorney01

Con

AceAttorney01 forfeited this round.
Leugen9001

Pro

Extend all arguments.
Debate Round No. 3
AceAttorney01

Con

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Leugen9001

Pro

Leugen9001 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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