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Final Fantasy VII is not the best Final Fantasy ever, and it was a steep turn downward from FF6.

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Started: 12/25/2007 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Electric

Pro

Final Fantasy 7 is not an amazing game. The polygoniest technologies used for said game are outdated and bland, and quite honestly, the sprites from Final Fantasy VI were more visually appealing, even if they weren't in 3-D. The character in 7 were annoying, especially Cloud. All he seemed to do was shake violently for no reason and have weird dreams or something. Final Fantasy 6 had 12 awesome characters (well not quite 12, but at least 10.) Final Fantasy 7 fails to reach that level of greatness.

The only people who worship Final Fantasy 7 are what I call FF7N00bs, those raised on FF7 who refuse to try the earlier incarnations because they are rather young and immature and are turned off by the poor graphics.
theaceb

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I am not actually this user but a friend of his.

Final Fantasy 7 is by far the best final fantasy. The story itself is the most unique of the whole series, containing actual pertinent themes. The music is some of the greatest in any video game, particularly the orchestral "One Winged Angel". The materia system gave an interesting new take on magic by having abilities affect stats as well.

Aeries' death was an extremely memorable twist that made Sepheroth a villain actually worth fighting. To say the characters aren't good is vague and incorrect. As stated above, Sepheroth was an epic villain, Red XIII and Barret were BAMFs, and Cloud had a gigantic sword. Their costumes didn't follow the fantasy stereotypes of earlier titles or the strangely feminine trend of future games.

While 6 was a good game, the story, amount and quality of side quests, and the amazing music all combined to make it just that 1 step better.
Debate Round No. 1
Electric

Pro

Kefka was a better villain than Sephiroth. Not only did he attempt to destroy the world, he in fact destroyed it and caused the creation of the World of Ruin. 7 wasn't the worst game, but the story wasn't that amazing. However, I admit that I haven't completed the game, so perhaps I have missed some of the story. 6 had an epic story with many characters fates being intertwined and I believe that 4 and 6 are the best Final Fantasies of all time.
theaceb

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Even if Kefka did destroy the world, Sephiroth practically did. In his final boss form he had a move that shot comet through every single planet, until it hits you for crazy high damage, you cant be more epic than that.

As the game goes on, the story of 7 keeps you guessing, with the realization of Cloud and Sephiroth's shady past. The shifting alliegances and interesting twists made the story a bit more unique than 6's. If you haven't finished the game, you haven't experienced the battles with some of video game history's greatest bosses, The Weapons, the satisfaction of beating Ruby Weapon is unparalleled.

But the main thing that keeps Final Fantasy VII one step higher is the amazing orchestral soundtrack that an SNES can't compete with.

In my opinion 6 and 7 are the best Final Fantasies, but 7 bests 6.
Debate Round No. 2
Electric

Pro

I will someday finish 7. Kefka still stands as the most despicable and insane boss of all time. I will admit that 6's story is a little weak in the second half of the game because it becomes nothing but sidequests, but nothing is better than the World of Balance and first part of World of Ruin.

6 had unique characters that had their own commands. Sabin's Blitzes, Gau's Rages, Mog's Dances, Edgar's tools, etc. Every character brought something to the table that identified them from one another.

In my opinion 6 and 4 are the best.
theaceb

Con

theaceb forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Electric 9 years ago
Electric
I will someday finish 7. Kefka still stands as the most despicable and insane boss of all time. I will admit that 6's story is a little weak in the second half of the game because it becomes nothing but sidequests, but nothing is better than the World of Balance and first part of World of Ruin.

6 had unique characters that had their own commands. Sabin's Blitzes, Gau's Rages, Mog's Dances, Edgar's tools, etc. Every character brought something to the table that identified them from one another.

In my opinion 6 and 4 are the best.
Posted by jackpool 9 years ago
jackpool
Then you missed out at the awesome materia near the end of the game, the plethora of side quests, and all the coolest summons and such.

The dreams in that game were so crazy, and were really made so well because of its 3D environment.
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