Fiscal conservatism and private business is our only way to prosper and get out of this recession.
| Started: | 8/4/2012 | Category: | Economics |
| Updated: | 9 months ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 364 times | Debate No: | 24990 |
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There isn't a single economic model anywhere that shows that government "investing" yields long term economic growth. Fairness is not an American value. Reducing taxes and cutting government spending will increase the overall wealth of America which is not finite, but in only being constrained by inefficiency. Optimally, taxes would be 0% plus a marginal, equal distribution investment by all in order maintain security and infrastructure. The government rarely achieves anything by investing. We are held hostage by such statements that investing in education will yield better results, or investing in clean energy will benefit this country. Almost all successful investments come from the private sector as eloquently demonstrated by companies such as x-prize.
I accept this debate. I will support the idea that we should: Through government invest in a robust infrastructure, and ensure equal opportunity so that a strong foundation for the private market is made and all citizens can fulfill their dreams. Gov't should engage in reform so that gov't is more simple and efficient, and protects consumers and provides greater stability. I await your arguments. |
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I'm not sure if we are actually agreeing. Here I have identified hundreds of Federal Programs to be eliminated which would save us trillions.
http://finallyright.wordpress.com... Oh yeah, I'm sorry, but forums and other pages with arguments do not count as arguments themselves. Same goes with videos, as DDO would generally agree. We are supposed to usually just present our case in the round itself. Want to restart this debate and get this debate deleted? |
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Ok, I wrote that so I will rewrite it here:
The first step to fix this country is to immediately slash federal government spending. Although this will send a shock through the entire economic system, it is a necessary shock. When the system is artificially propped up, there will be an impact from that false pressure. The approach that we take today where every program begins the budget year with a necessary 10% increase is self-defeating. There are no checks and balances and no accountability. There must be hundreds if not thousands of federal agencies that were originally intended (usually driven by emotion) to do good for some slice of the population; agencies which we don't even remember their original purpose; and lastly, agencies that fail to actually do the good that they intended. The public sector, service oriented good intended agencies repeatedly have failed to provide (except for a few exceptions). So start with what the federal government was established to do: defend the country and the population. This means a military to defend against foreign attacks and to maintain interstate law and order. After that program is reviewed (and it does need review) and funded appropriately, you then have a bottoms up budget design. Social Security is not going to be around in the near future . I'll pay into this abomination that has become the private sectors baby boomer's retirement fund, and I'll try to fund my own retirement. I have to do both. But please, while I do both, stop spending and printing money so what I am actually saving has some value down the road. So yes, reform social security. We don't need to give money to people that don't need it. Sorry, if you don't need it, you don't get it. I don't care if you paid into it. So did I and so am I, but we all know I am not going to see it. Please don't have our younger generation of new workers entering the work force pay into this social security that is giving money to wealthy senior citizens. We must stop income redistributions. Especially stop sending SSI insurance to young people who are "disabled" from depression or anxiety. Please, don't get me started here. It's the worst way to help them. Cut off welfare, food stamps and unemployment for anyone using them longer than 3 months. You would be amazed how much communities will help each other and how charitable this nation is. But it is hard to be charitable when all of your money is already being inefficiently transferred by the federal government to those that don't even need it or who are unwilling to work. There are almost 400 million people in America. 50 million pay federal tax, 80 million receive money from the government. You can review the 441 federal agencies that can be cut although not all of them fit so refer to my link in my previous argument. I beg anyone to make a case as to why our Federal Government should be funding these agencies. I was very mindful about these so I am sincerely looking for feedback. Thanks for your argument. Your plan reduces our liberty because it does nothing to invest and rebuild America's infrastructure which sets the foundation to allow Americans to flourish. I basically think we should reform government and 1) empower people and protect their individual liberties, and 2) allow the market to prosper while benefiting society as a whole.
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patrickdengler forfeited this round.
Suprised about how much I've changed my views since I started this debate. Regardless of that, Vote Contra |
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