The Instigator
jawyer
Pro (for)
Tied
3 Points
The Contender
ConservativePolitico
Con (against)
Tied
3 Points

Football players earn too much money

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/20/2012 Category: Economics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (5)
Votes (6)

 

jawyer

Pro

As CON, You believe football players are given too much money for what they do

PRO, I am to argue that what they do deserves there massive payments (£200,000 a week)

good luck to you, CON
ConservativePolitico

Con

We have discussed and I had him change it so he was now Pro as his position supports.

Pro now argues for the resolution.

Con argues against it.

I believe football players earn a perfectly fine ammount of money.

I await Pro's opening arguments.

football = soccer?
Debate Round No. 1
jawyer

Pro

The following points for the motion i will state at the beginning then i will go through each and explain them.

1. Football players work hard every day by training long hours every week and they please all the fans and the nation. The time and dedication they put into football is only worth it if they get paid well.

2. Football players are so expensive because they're very rare. Doctors, teachers and nurses e.t.c get paid less because they are more common and there are more than enough of them.

3. Not all are overpaid for. It's mainly the footballers who perform well who get massive bonuses. Clubs who buy football players (eg. Torres- 50 million, Ronaldo- 80 million) have that money to spend due to all the ticket sales from the millions of fans.

(a). It is the clubs money anyway, they can spend it however they wish.

(b). The amount of money footballers are paid is only on account of the money the generate for the club.

Firstly: Football isnt just a game anymore, it has turned into a business (all the clubs, cameramen, fans, managers etc.) They all have to work extremely hard to keep it running alot more than people think. Especially the players themselves who have a 24/7 job. They have to eat properly, train all day, travel all night. The amount of effort put into the football industry is massive. So there must be huge amounts of money involved.

Secondly: Many people say that it is just a game where you kick a ball around for 90 minutes and get £100k. Football players are not being paid for kicking a ball around a pitch. They are being paid to entertain the people , just like muscicians and actors. They risk also if they don't perform well on one occasion, they could damage their whole career and let themselves and others (club, media etc.) down.

Thirdly: For example, Wayne Rooney is paid £100,000 a week because 74,000 people pay to see him play every week as well as buy his t-shirt and other ways of generating inome such as sponsorship. So the only way to determine if a footballer is paid too much, is to see how much he generates for the club.

I have more points awaiting in the next rounds and i now wait for my opponent to respond in a formal, constructive and proffessional manner.

Good luck to you, CON
ConservativePolitico

Con

This debate is all screwed up. I got confused by what the instigator originally posted in the arguments and now I'm confused on what stance he is taking.

He is taking Con's position yet says he is Pro...

I urge to let this debate die and tie due to confusion...
Debate Round No. 2
jawyer

Pro


you are con, you disagree with me i.e you think they should not

i know i made it confusing by mistake and got muddled up but now you are basiclly against them making this huge amount of money

please continue with this debate ...
:P
ConservativePolitico

Con

We are remaking the debate so that it is no longer muddled and confused.
Debate Round No. 3
jawyer

Pro

yes ... so rebuttle...

1. Football players work hard every day by training long hours every week and they please all the fans and the nation. The time and dedication they put into football is only worth it if they get paid well.

2. Football players are so expensive because they're very rare. Doctors, teachers and nurses e.t.c get paid less because they are more common and there are more than enough of them.

3. Not all are overpaid for. It's mainly the footballers who perform well who get massive bonuses. Clubs who buy football players (eg. Torres- 50 million, Ronaldo- 80 million) have that money to spend due to all the ticket sales from the millions of fans.

(a). It is the clubs money anyway, they can spend it however they wish.

(b). The amount of money footballers are paid is only on account of the money the generate for the club.

Firstly: Football isnt just a game anymore, it has turned into a business (all the clubs, cameramen, fans, managers etc.) They all have to work extremely hard to keep it running alot more than people think. Especially the players themselves who have a 24/7 job. They have to eat properly, train all day, travel all night. The amount of effort put into the football industry is massive. So there must be huge amounts of money involved.

Secondly: Many people say that it is just a game where you kick a ball around for 90 minutes and get £100k. Football players are not being paid for kicking a ball around a pitch. They are being paid to entertain the people , just like muscicians and actors. They risk also if they don't perform well on one occasion, they could damage their whole career and let themselves and others (club, media etc.) down.

Thirdly: For example, Wayne Rooney is paid £100,000 a week because 74,000 people pay to see him play every week as well as buy his t-shirt and other ways of generating inome such as sponsorship. So the only way to determine if a footballer is paid too much, is to see how much he generates for the club.


ConservativePolitico

Con

Waiting this out.

Re-make the debate with the PROPER pro-con positions and I'll debate you.
Debate Round No. 4
ConservativePolitico

Con

Let this die as a tie please voters.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Koopin 5 years ago
Koopin
*sets alarm countdown for 02days22hours46minutes11seconds while hovering finger over a votebomb*
Posted by ConservativePolitico 5 years ago
ConservativePolitico
I'm confused...

So you DONT think football players earn too much?
Posted by ConservativePolitico 5 years ago
ConservativePolitico
I'm confused...

So you DONT think football players earn too much?
Posted by jawyer 5 years ago
jawyer
@ConservativePolitico

ok
Posted by ConservativePolitico 5 years ago
ConservativePolitico
Switch yourself to Pro, you support the resolution.

If you switch I'll take this debate.
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