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Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a good president.

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Started: 4/1/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Round 1: Acceptance
Round 2: Opening
Round 3: Rebuttal
Round 4: Closing
I will be negating the resolution.

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I accept.
Debate Round No. 1



Good president: One that has a net benefit onto their people.

Contention 1: Bad economic policies

"After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.
In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy, Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.
Using data collected in 1929 by the Conference Board and the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Cole and Ohanian were able to establish average wages and prices across a range of industries just prior to the Depression. By adjusting for annual increases in productivity, they were able to use the 1929 benchmark to figure out what prices and wages would have been during every year of the Depression had Roosevelt's policies not gone into effect. They then compared those figures with actual prices and wages as reflected in the Conference Board data.
In the three years following the implementation of Roosevelt's policies, wages in 11 key industries averaged 25 percent higher than they otherwise would have done, the economists calculate. But unemployment was also 25 percent higher than it should have been, given gains in productivity.
Meanwhile, prices across 19 industries averaged 23 percent above where they should have been, given the state of the economy. With goods and services that much harder for consumers to afford, demand stalled and the gross national product floundered at 27 percent below where it otherwise might have been.
"High wages and high prices in an economic slump run contrary to everything we know about market forces in economic downturns," Ohanian said. "As we've seen in the past several years, salaries and prices fall when unemployment is high. By artificially inflating both, the New Deal policies short-circuited the market's self-correcting forces."

As shown by this UCLA study, FDR did not "overturn the Depression", as many prevously thought, but actually prolonged and worsened the Great Depression.
Because of Roosevelt, many Americans stayed in poverty and could not feed themselves and their families. During the Depression, over 13 million Americans lost jobs and 2 million became homeless. While it is true that FDR didn't create the problem, he certainly made it worse.

Contention 2: Japanese Internment

Franklin D Roosevelt caused 127,000 Japanese Americans to be sent into concentration camps. Their only crime was their race.
"The U.S. internment camps were overcrowded and provided poor living conditions. According to a 1943 report published by the War Relocation Authority (the administering agency), Japanese Americans were housed in "tarpaper-covered barracks of simple frame construction without plumbing or cooking facilities of any kind." Coal was hard to come by, and internees slept under as many blankets as they were alloted. Food was rationed out at an expense of 48 cents per internee, and served by fellow internees in a mess hall of 250-300 people."

Forcing 127000 people into camps with inhumane conditions is a human rights violation. If this happened to SOME people legally, it could happen to everyone. FDR took away the rights and liberties of American people.

Contention 3: Power-Hungry

Franklin Delano Roosevelt was certainly a power hungry tyrant. He himself signed 3728 Executive Orders, bypassing Congress and the Court. He seized power for himself, ruining the democracy.

FDR attempted to "stack" the Supreme Court with 15 justices so allw ould be loyal to him. This was because the Supreme Court dared to defy his tyranny. A democracy cannot exist with only one man as a king.
Finally, FDR was elected to 4 terms, overstaying his reign of power.

Thank you and good luck to Pro!


captainamericatheavenger forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2


Disappointing forfeiture. But I extend anyways.

FDR spent more money than we have. The national debt was nothing, or close to nothing, when FDR began. By 1945, it was 260 billion dollars. If you calculate that into 2014 dollars that is just short of 3.5 TRILLION dollars.;

"FDR aides tolerated ER's intercessions, but became incensed when she supported Walter White's relentless efforts to secure administration support for the Costigan-Wagner anti-lynching bill. The bill had been introduced in early 1934, and while FDR agreed with its sentiments, he did nothing to urge its passage. A frustrated White turned to ER for advice and additional pressure. Her support not only frustrated FDR, but enraged press secretary Steve Early who sent ER a strong memo condemning White's single-mindedness. The tension within the White House increased when Claude Neal was lynched in October. Despite her best efforts, ER could not convince FDR to lend public support to the bill for fear of alienating the senior southern senators"

FDR would not help out people of different race, even when being blatantly discrimanted against.

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