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Free will is an illusion

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/27/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 11 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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thespooninator

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Free will: The ability to choose between different possible courses of action.
Lexus

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I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by moneystacker 11 months ago
moneystacker
I'm reading some book trying to prove free will I an allusion called the self beyond itself. IT shows how situational forces can influence desciscions regardless of your moral values like the HOlocaust or some 1970 test conducted in a Stanford basement where even good people were corrupted by the experiment in which they were guards who had prisoners. Furthermore the book talks about how people blindly obey it shows how a test was conducted where a person was asked to shock someone if they got a question wrong and that it was ok no blame would be put on them. Scary enough the people went with it and the people who didn't even report the test or actually apologized to the researcher for disturbing it. Another study where they got certified nurses and claimed there boss or whatever wanted them to put in 2 times the regular does of a drug for a patent. Even though it was obviously wrong they did it anyway.

SO yeah those are some arguments I have learned about so far against free will that people are blind to certain moral beliefs when they are obeying an order from someone in a higher position or situations or society's accepted beliefs can even cause someone good to do something bad or turn a good person into a bad. In other words instead of the bad apple in the barrel the barrel itself is bad and negatively influences the apples.

All in all I don't believe in free will I believe its possible to resist certain forces particularly if you have a strong religious belief or you are a strong critical thinker. I believe free will is real you just have to protect it and ensure you are strong enough to keep it. Kind of like the holy ghost in the apostolic Christian religion. Sure there are sins that can cause you to lose it but its possible to keep it.
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Vote Placed by lannan13 11 months ago
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