Frozen wasn't really all that great...
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Many people love frozen because of the storyline (Spoiler Alert!) The main characters are sister Elsa and Anna. Anna is worried about hurting her sister with freeze powers and creates a metaphorical distance between them and the world. This hurts Anna and her sister craves love especially when their parents die. during Elsa's coronation she has to try and hide her powers which is very challenging for her. meanwhile Anna meets a guy she seems to like and wants to get married after a day of knowing one another. Elsa ends of freezing everything in frustration and runs away. The rest is Anna Finding Elsa and connecting with an Ice miner.
The Story has many parallels to everyday life such as family bonds, falling in love being awkward, and getting out of your comfort zone. Many people think it represents homosexuality and the fear and hate that comes with it. Others think its about how a yearning for connections can make you naive and "easy". Other Theories are: Puberty, Sexism, Racism, and climate change. http://nypost.com...
As you can see this movie can apply to just about anyone and their "big" life decisions and hardships.
Personally i think i watched it too late after everyone was all hyped up about it being such a great movie that my expectations where heightened making it only a little bit better then I had in mind. If i had watched it in theaters i would have been floored.
This is the song that is pretty much the most memorable part of the film. This is the song that you take home with you. You can't get it out of you're head because it keeps playing over and over again. On the Internet, and even on the radio. Hell, I'd go so far as to say frozen was a music video for this song! THIS is the reason why frozen did so well. Because it's a good song. This is the ONLY thing that made frozen different from all the other Disney musicals.
That, my dear opponent, is why frozen, is just another Disney movie. And it just happened to get lucky.
Let it go is one of the most powerful songs within this musical family film. It is the "I Dreamed a dream" of Les Miserables (https://www.youtube.com...). Some would call it the anthem of the movie, but in reality it is only a small part. Let it go has its own spot within the movie, almost like a music video within the movie sure, but it has meaning. Its the change in Elsa's demeanor that sticks with me. Before this point she was very unlikeable and sad, you get to see her break free and in the audience your happy for her. I helps that its catchy but its not the only good song or scene in the movie and definitely not the reason the movie was liked.
If the let it go scene was the last in the movie people would be mad. That song would have not been well liked and frozen would not have been a good movie. Even though you love to see a character be strong and happy its much better to see that after a conflict has been resolved. That being said the movie would have been very different and wouldent have been such a big deal. Not because of the greatness of the son per say but because Elsa would have been written as the antagonist in the film. (http://en.wikipedia.org...) There are other excellent songs in the movie, the one i sing more then let it go is "do you wanna build a snowman?". This is a cute, sad, and funny song that gets you to know little sister Anna better.
The movie itself has some excellent dialog and scenes. the best quotes are not even near the songs like when Elsa tells Anna "who marries someone they just met", or the introduction of the snow man. http://www.imdb.com.... Powerful scenes include the tower battle, climax of the movie (which i wont spoil for anyone), and when the husband to be shows his true colors.
Comparing it to Tangled is almost insulting, Tangled has noting to do with what people face on a daily basis or even once in their life. There is very few parallels to the audiences life and the songs are just not that catchy. The best song is When my life begin. How many of the things she lists do you everyday? If she can do all those things it doesn't seem like she is all that bored to me! There are plenty of Disney princess movies like this such as The little mermaid, cinderella, beauty and the beast and snow white. All the girls are in need of saving from some big bad and a prince charming has to do the work. Only one Disney princess movie stands out to me with Frozen, Mulan. The story of the girl who poses as a man and saves China. she is strong and although she is accompanied by men she isn't overshadowed in heroism, she also marries this man but unlike all the other princesses she doesn't marry a guy she just met (a major theme in frozen).
How would this represent gayness? I highly doubt Anybody came home thinking this could represent homosexuality?
All the songs except let it go pretty much sounded the same. I honestly saw nothing unique about them.
The humor was the same as the humor in all the other disney princess musicals.
Why wasn't snow white or cinderella just as successful? Couldn't you say cinderella had to do with family bonds?
I honestly don't see any differences. And yes i saw it in theaters.
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http://time.com... . They think Letting go means coming out and that Elsa was the character to do so.
"Do you wanna build a snowman?" (https://www.youtube.com...) has 2 million views, a more than decent number, especially for a song that's "not unique". This is wile Olofs song (my least favorite) has 25 million. https://www.youtube.com.... let it go has a huge 73.6 million, wow!. it wouldent be a stretch to think that 1/3 of the people who liked let it go went on tho watch olofs song, I think that is enough to prove that the songs are at very least catchy.
(just for perceptive: Tangled maxed out their best song in the movie at 12.9 million views)
I don't believe that snow white or cinderella where as successful because they aren't as relatable. Girls cant relate to "she is so beautiful that someone wants to kill her" or that "my evil step mother wants me to do nothing but work and so I'll sneak out to find that a prince loves me". They can relate better too "I did something people think is wrong but I don't think it was bad"
Thanks for the debate,
Please consider Con when voting and I hope you will see the movie if you haven't already!
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro says he feels he's " losing this debat [sic]", which I interpret as a nigh-concession. He did not respond to most of Con's arguments in support of the movie. Considering the generally vague resolution in the first place, Con's arguments in support of Frozen as "all that great" are sufficient to win him the arguments point. Pro, I do think you should work a bit on your S&G/formatting. It wasn't quite enough to award points, but it definitely hurt the readability of your case for me. As always, happy to clarify this RFD.
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