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MistyBlue
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AdamLanza-AmericanHero
Con (against)
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Fur is unethical

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MistyBlue
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/29/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (4)
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Votes (2)

 

MistyBlue

Pro

First round is acceptance. I will be arguing against the fur trade, that it IS indeed unethical to produce fur.
AdamLanza-AmericanHero

Con

Without the production of fur for clothing, mankind would not have survived. As long as the animal is put down cleanly and its whole body is used, there is nothing wrong with it.
Debate Round No. 1
MistyBlue

Pro

Thanks for accepting the debate!

In the modern world, we outgrow fashions, house styles, and old cars relatively quickly. Why can't we leave fur? Humans have worn clothing, probably made of fur and skins at first, for 170,000 years [1]. In the beginning of the time where humans began to wear clothes, fur was one of the only options they had. The same is not true now, with literally thousands of alternative fabrics and faux fur that are even cheaper than real fur in many cases. Also, when the cavemen etc. were wearing fur, they actually produced it themselves. 85% of fur today is produced on fur farms, and the rest is produced by trapping [2]. The fashionable celebrities don't go kill it with their own hands, and I doubt that they really know where it came from and how it was produced. Fur is unethical because of values associated with wearing fur and the inhumane way fur is produced in the modern world.

People wear fur, in my opinion, for a lot of bad reasons. (If I'm totally forgetting one, feel free to remind me :) ). People wear fur because it is warm, or because it is a good way to make an impression on people. The world today is centered on popularity, and many people are very concerned about what others think of them. For example, people wear makeup, flattering clothes, and celebrities photoshop pictures so that they look "better". Fur is another way that people address this insecurity. Fur clothing is pretty expensive. Mink fur coats cost thousands of dollars, usually around $3,000, but it isn't a rarity for it to go as high as $20,000 for a single coat [3]. Therefore, wearing a fur coat is a sign of wealth. Also, fur is considered fashionable, so it is also a fashion statement. Fashion and wealth are 2 vanity centered reasons to buy fur. I'm not saying that its a crime to want to appear wealthy or beautiful, but isn't it immoral to take out insecurity on helpless animals? The last reason that people wear fur is because of its warmth. It can't be denied that fur is very warm, it comes from the backs of animals who used it to survive the cold, subzero nights! However, because of the great variety of options, it's also not a great reason. Polar fleece and faux fur are 2 options, that happen to also be much cheaper than real fur. Save $, Save lives! Also, faux fur was scientifically proved to be more environmentally friendly than real fur [4]. In conclusion, there is no reason to buy fur that is worth the number of lives put into making it. It takes 30-40 rabbits for one fur coat! [5] (I am not going to list all of the statistics, its pretty long, but feel free to click on source 5 and check for yourself) Human insecurities cost 40 million animals their lives (worldwide) every year. Do they go with respect or dignity? Read on to find out.

As I previously stated, a large majority of fur comes from fur farms, with the rest coming from trapping. Fur farms are unethical all in themselves because of the conditions animals are kept in and the way that they are slaughtered. Fur farm animals are kept in wire cages that are stacked in sheds. These cages are very small, barely enough for them to lie down comfortably, and there is also a problem they have with their paws getting stuck in the wiring. They are fed rottten leftover food (rotten eggs, expired dairy), which the fur industry claims to say protects the environment by reducing landfill size. That is technically true, but it is not humane to feed animals by-products, which have a higher probability of inducing illness that the fur industry won't pay for [2]. These animals are killed in methods that protect their fur, that is the only reason for their existence on fur farms. Usual methods include gassing, electrocuting, and skinning (sometimes the animal is still alive at the time of the skinning). These methods are cruel and inhumane, and the worst part about it is that the whole point of the animal going through this torture is so people can feel pretty. Trapped animals are desperate to escape. Some even chew through their own limbs to get out of the trap. And those are the lucky ones. Also, endangered animals and even lost pets can get caught and killed in these traps.

Basically, boycotting fur is about respect for all life. Animals should not have to die for a whim.






This photo shows that the number of fur sales is going up and up! How come now, when the world has the most alternative options, we are using more and more fur? Glamour and Vanity? Not worth the pain that made it!




AdamLanza-AmericanHero

Con

AdamLanza-AmericanHero forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
MistyBlue

Pro

I extend my arguments.


AdamLanza-AmericanHero

Con

AdamLanza-AmericanHero forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
MistyBlue

Pro


Again, I extend my arguments. Vote Pro!
AdamLanza-AmericanHero

Con

AdamLanza-AmericanHero forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by whiteflame 2 years ago
whiteflame
No problem.
Posted by MistyBlue 2 years ago
MistyBlue
Thanks for the tips!
Posted by whiteflame 2 years ago
whiteflame
You'll want to make your stance pretty clear here, since someone could feasibly argue that the process of farming animals for their fur need not include many of the current factory farming practices, which dramatically changes the way the debate is argued. That would basically make the argument interchangeable with one about farming for meat, whereas I think you want to discuss the practices in place for specifically using an animal solely for its fur.
Posted by MistyBlue 2 years ago
MistyBlue
Mainly industrial manufacturing of fur on fur farms, but I am also arguing that the concept of wearing fur itself is unethical, so it overlaps into other methods as well.
Posted by whiteflame 2 years ago
whiteflame
And are you arguing that all such instances of "making" fur are unethical, or that the ways it is made most often are unethical?
Posted by MistyBlue 2 years ago
MistyBlue
For this debate, I am just debating usage of animals for the purpose of "making" fur.
Posted by whiteflame 2 years ago
whiteflame
Are you arguing against the usage of animals in general, or simply against their usage for this purpose?
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfeiture.
Vote Placed by Zarroette 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: The resolution pertains to (killing animals for their) fur IS unethical, meaning that Con's sole contention that fur was once unethical is irrelevant to this debate. Since Pro's arguments went uncontested, arguments to Pro. Pro sources were also superior, and the graphs made for a stronger argument. Conduct to Pro Con's forfeits.