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Blacksnake
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airmax1227
Con (against)
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Gangnam style is the worst song.

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airmax1227
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/23/2012 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (4)
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Blacksnake

Pro

first of all, Gnagnam style is the worst song becuase, it is in Korean and it doesn't make sense. Second of all, it is random words and some people sa bad words about it. They can't even speak English properly. pretty sure that it is a robot looking at the vidoe to make have lots of views. there is no truth int he views. Some people say its annoying. http://ireport.cnn.com... ot prove that it is bad. oep you enjoy :D
airmax1227

Con

I'd like to thank my opponent for challenging me to this debate.

(A vid of this song is posted just in case there are those not familiar with it)

In this debate I will be arguing that "Gangnam Style" is not the worst song.

I am now going to briefly address my opponent's opening arguments. In the next round I will explain why it's actually a decent song, and give examples of worse songs.

My opponent's opening arguments:

1) It is in Korean and it doesn't make sense.

A song doesn't necessarily have to "make sense" to be good, and the fact that it is in Korean doesn't detract from its quality. There are many great songs that aren't in English.

2) It is random words and some people say bad words about it.

It's not random. Its lyrics tell a story and describe a cultural phenomenon. Some people may say bad things about it, that doesn't make it the worst song ever. It's only natural that not everyone is going to like it.

3) They can't even speak English properly.

Once again, this doesn't detract from its quality, it was created by a group that makes songs that aren't in the English language.

4) It is a robot looking at the video to make have lots of views. There is no truth in the views.

Even if true, the number of Youtube views a song gets is not necessarily indicative of its quality.

5) Some people say it's annoying

Some people are going to think every song is annoying. We live in a world of 6 billion people. Someone is going to dislike everything. This certainly doesn't make it the worst song ever.

I'll leave it there for now and go into further analysis of this song, and songs that are worse than it in the next round.

Once again I'd like to thank my opponent and I look forward to an interesting debate.
Debate Round No. 1
Blacksnake

Pro

Blacksnake forfeited this round.
airmax1227

Con

I'd like to once again thank my opponent for challenging me to this debate.

Unfortunately my opponent was unable to post his second round, but I'll post my arguments in this round regardless.

In this round I will explain why I believe that "Gangnam style" is a decent song, and I'll point to several songs that are objectively worse than it.

Because my opponent didn't post his second round I'll just keep my initial points simple. "Gangnam style" is a decent song for several reasons, and those are as follows:

1) It is a catchy tune.

2) It is fun to dance to and it even already has an established dance that isn't that hard to do.

Just put your hands on your hips and move around a bit. Then put one arm out while you simulate twirling a lasso over your head finally followed by short jumps in the air, moving your legs as though you are riding on a horse. It's pretty ridiculous, but is always a fun time.

3) Lyrics:

English Translation:

Oppa is Gangnam style
Gangnam style

A girl who is warm and humanle during the day
A classy girl who know how to enjoy the freedom of a cup of coffee
A girl whose heart gets hotter when night comes
A girl with that kind of twist

I'm a guy
A guy who is as warm as you during the day
A guy who one-shots his coffee before it even cools down
A guy whose heart bursts when night comes
That kind of guy

Beautiful, loveable
Yes you, hey, yes you, hey
Beautiful, loveable
Yes you, hey, yes you, hey

Now let's go until the end
Oppa is Gangnam style, Gangnam style
Oppa is Gangnam style, Gangnam style
Oppa is Gangnam style

Eh- Sexy Lady, Oppa is Gangnam style
Eh- Sexy Lady oh oh oh oh

A girl who looks quiet but plays when she plays
A girl who puts her hair down when the right time comes
A girl who covers herself but is more sexy than a girl who bares it all
A sensable girl like that

I'm a guy
A guy who seems calm but plays when he plays
A guy who goes completely crazy when the right time comes
A guy who has bulging ideas rather than muscles

That kind of guy
Beautiful, loveable
Yes you, hey, yes you, hey
Beautiful, loveable
Yes you, hey, yes you, hey

Now let's go until the end
Oppa is Gangnam style, Gangnam style
Oppa is Gangnam style, Gangnam style
Oppa is Gangnam style

Eh- Sexy Lady, Oppa is Gangnam style
Eh- Sexy Lady oh oh oh oh

On top of the running man is the flying man, baby baby
I'm a man who knows a thing or two
On top of the running man is the flying man, baby baby
I'm a man who knows a thing or two

You know what I'm saying
Oppa is Gangnam style

Eh- Sexy Lady, Oppa is Gangnam style
Eh- Sexy Lady oh oh oh oh

[1]

While the lyrics don't seem all that unique, they are really interesting when viewed more deeply. It may appear to be a typical contemporary story about a guy who is into a particular woman, or describing a particular woman, but there are cultural implications that are fascinating to those who never knew about them.

Specifically, the issues relating to this "Gangnam Style", that is the title theme of the song.

""Gangnam Style" is a Korean neologism mainly associated with upscale fashion and lavish lifestyle associated with trendsetters in Seoul's Gangnam distric, which is considered the most affluent part of the metropolitan area. In colloquial usage, it is comparable to the English slang terms "swag" or "yolo"." [2]

I hope to go into more depth regarding the cultural aspects of the song in a later round.

Learning about other cultures is cool, and most people would have never known about this if not for this song. So "Gangnam style" is fun and educational, and couldn't possibly be the worst song ever.

To prove this even further I will now point to songs (and post the youtube links) that are clearly worse than Gangnam Style.

(Just a heads up, taste in music is entirely subjective. I'm about to hate on a bunch of songs featuring at least one song that someone reading this is bound to like. I apologize in advance for insulting something you like, or a piece of nostalgia from your childhood that you just can't let go of. I know its tough, but that song never really was very good. You know the one I'm referring to, it's time to let it go and admit it's terrible and always has been. But anyways, I"m sorry for the following:)

Terrible songs that are worse than Gangnam Style:

1) The Hamster Dance Song

I'm not even sure this really qualifies as music, and yet there are some people listening to it nodding their head and smiling as though it's something awesome. Stop it please.

2) American Life - Madonna

I don't know who this artist is, but assuming she is rich and famous, this musical rant comes off as adolescent and ridiculous.

3) Summer Girls - LFO

This song might be bad, but it gets some points for being randomly informative: "McCully Culkin was in Home Alone, Michael J. Fox was Alex P Keaton". Thanks for the information LFO, but you could have just sent a memo.

4) You Light Up My Life - Debbie Boone

Oh god, kill it! Someone kill it now!

5) MMMBop - Hanson

Ummm yeah.... "This is the "terrible songs" theme song.

6) The Fast Food Song

This is the fast food song...

At least one of these songs is worse than Gangnam style, so I'll leave it there for now.

I'd like to thank my opponent for this debate and I look forward to reading his next round.

[1] http://www.kpoplyrics.net...
[2] http://www.urbandictionary.com...
Debate Round No. 2
Blacksnake

Pro

See that is none sense if you read the translation
airmax1227

Con

I'd like to once again thank my opponent.

His most recent argument:

"See that is none sense if you read the translation"

I read the translation and it seems to make plenty of sense to me.

It starts with a clear declaration:

"Oppa is Gangnam style"

Then the artist continues on to describe characteristics of someone who he is attracted to:

"A girl who is warm"
"A classy girl who know how to enjoy the freedom of a cup of coffee"
"A girl who puts her hair down"
"A girl who covers herself but is more sexy than a girl who bares it all"

He also describes himself:

"A guy who is as warm as you during the day"
"A guy who one-shots his coffee before it even cools down"
"A guy whose heart bursts when night comes"
"A guy who seems calm but plays when he plays"
"A guy who goes completely crazy when the right time comes"
"A guy who has bulging ideas rather than muscles"

But ultimately his message is quite clear:

"You know what I'm saying
Oppa is Gangnam style"

I think the lyrics make a lot of sense and are actually quite straight forward, as mainstream pop music goes at least.

If this is my opponent's main argument for why Gangnam Style is the worst song ever, it would be easy enough for me to negate the resolution by simply posting some songs that are of even greater "nonsense" attribution than the song under contention.

So let's do that.

Song that are more nonsensical than Gangnam Style:

1) De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da - The Police

2) Tutti Frutti - Little Richard

3) Ob La Di, Ob La Da - The Beatles

4) Do Wah Diddy - Manfred Mann

5) Zip A Dee Do Da - Louis Armstrong

[1]

If anything, these songs prove that the amount of "sense" a song makes is not ever indicative of its quality.

Some of these songs make far less sense than Gangnam Style and are decent songs in their own right.

...So the "nonsense argument" made by my opponent is negated and Gangnam Style is also not the worst song ever.

I'd like to thank my opponent and I look forward to his next round.

[1] http://kearth101.cbslocal.com...
Debate Round No. 3
Blacksnake

Pro

SIGH* the last video there was not " does not make sense video" does make sense, but it is in another language.

i urge you to not vote for AIRMAX and vote for BLACKSNAKE!!

VOTE ME BECUASE YOU KNOW I WON :D
airmax1227

Con

I'm not sure I understand my opponent's R4 argument, but I'm confident I touched on it in the earlier rounds. So I'll leave it there.

Gangnam Style is not the worst song, the resolution is negated, and Oppa is Gangnam Style.

I'd like to thank my opponent for challenging me to this debate, and I would like to thank everyone who read it.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Nijal.T 4 years ago
Nijal.T
Gangnam style is a Korean song, that was identified by us (Normal people who speak english), because we liked the style of the song, the dance, and the chorus. There is nothing wrong with having a song that is Korean. There are tons of Korean songs, the singer is Korean so how can you expect him to sing in English for you? It's like a Korean guy saying Pink's song Just Give Me A Reason is stupid because it's in English and it doesn't make sense. Like where is the logic in that? It's not his fault that the song decided to become a worldwide hit, the target was to be a hit in Korea :).
Posted by Tes95 4 years ago
Tes95
XD! "Gangnam Style is the worst song because it is Korean and it doesn't make any sense." XD! I am no fan of it, but that was pretty damn funny.
Posted by bossyburrito 4 years ago
bossyburrito
"Just put your hands on your hips and move around a bit. Then put one arm out while you simulate twirling a lasso over your head finally followed by short jumps in the air, moving your legs as though you are riding on a horse. It's pretty ridiculous, but is always a fun time."
I demand a video.
Posted by Rayze 4 years ago
Rayze
Hey airmax you forgot the songs by justin bieber and rebecca black.
Posted by wrichcirw 4 years ago
wrichcirw
Already one round of forfeiture, two more rounds before I get to legitimately troll this debate...
Posted by RyuuKyuzo 4 years ago
RyuuKyuzo
I wish I was cool enough to get random challenges like this >.>

One day...
Posted by bossyburrito 4 years ago
bossyburrito
First Spider Man, and now this?
Posted by airmax1227 4 years ago
airmax1227
he did
Posted by bossyburrito 4 years ago
bossyburrito
Did he challenge you to this?
Posted by Ike-Jin-Park 4 years ago
Ike-Jin-Park
And as a Korean, I feel very proud that song from my country is being discussed even on DDO...^^
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Reasons for voting decision: I also find Gangnam style kinda annoying, but it's not the absolute worst song ever. Justin Bieber's song "Boyfriend" takes that award.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con destroyed all the arguments from Pro, who forfeited.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro made a stupid resolution Con destroyed it & Pro didn't even bother saying anything.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con argued effectively. S&G should be obvious, Con gets the edge for sourcing slightly better, and as noted I found Con's arguments and rebuttals to effectively confound Pro's attempts at meeting the BOP.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro droppes all arguments, forfeit a round and never offers a fully formed argument as to why Gangnam style is the worst song ever.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pretty easy vote. Pro clearly wasn't willing to put in the effort needed to win this, so conduct to con. Pro's punctuation was all over the place, to S/G to con. Con pointed out songs that are much worse than gagnam style, therefore gangnam style cannot be the worst song, therefore arguments to con. Only con used sources to support his argument, so sources to con.
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Reasons for voting decision: Koopin's right, but I did read the debate, what an eyesore. Con was the only one with a coherent argument, and correctly refuted Pro. Pro's final round 4 could be counted as a concession, or could be just counted as a surrender. Either one, Con clearly won. S/G to con, Conduct to con.
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Reasons for voting decision: Obvious win to CON. Conduct to CON for forfeit. S&G is obvious. Arguments to CON because PRO failed to refute them. Sources to CON, because, well it's kind of obvious really... Last thing, K-POP ALL THE WAY <3 <3 <3
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Reasons for voting decision: Did not read entire debate. Saw Pro forfeited, and had spelling mistakes.