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crazypenguin
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righty10294
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Gay Marriage should be legal in the USA

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Started: 1/14/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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crazypenguin

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Good morning/night

First I will state my opening arguments,

Gay Marriage should be legal in the USA because why should we restrict people from leading a lifestyle that they wish to? If that is what they want to do with their life let them, it is not some big crime that they are commiting. Also if people have freedom of speech, press, assembly, religion and petition why can't they have freedom of marriage. Theoretically gay marriage could be put under freedom of religion so why not just let them marry who ever they want to. If they really do love another wo/man and both agree why should we stop them? There shouldn't be any law saying that there can be no gay marriage.

Thank you for joining this debate,
righty10294

Con

Hello sorry for the delay,

"if people have freedom of speech, press, assembly, religion and petition why can't they have freedom of marriage"- CRAZY PENGUIN

There is a difference between the stuff you listed and marriage. Marriage is only LEGAL between a man and woman, not to of the same sex.

"gay marriage could be put under freedom of religion"

That is an interesting argument, but that can be put under the marijuana religion. IS it really a religion, or just an excuse to smoke. It is really fake and don't be surprised if someone comes up with it.

Our founding fathers would have never allowed this. But it isn't just are founding fathers, up to JFK, all the presidents would have never allowed it.

Another thing is, the average person living from paycheck to paycheck, can only do one thing for human race: have a baby. That is the human life cycle; birth, reproduce, die. A gay couple cannot do that.
Debate Round No. 1
crazypenguin

Pro

Thank you for joining this debate.

I will first rebutt my opponents points and then move to mine.

"There is a difference between the stuff you listed and marriage. Marriage is only LEGAL between a man and woman, not to of the same sex." and that's why we're debating about Gay Marriage should be legal in the USA.

"That is an interesting argument, but that can be put under the marijuana religion. IS it really a religion, or just an excuse to smoke. It is really fake and don't be surprised if someone comes up with it." Yes it could be considered a religion under some people's eyes.

"Our founding fathers would have never allowed this. But it isn't just are founding fathers, up to JFK, all the presidents would have never allowed it." My opponent states that up to JFK which means all the presidents after would theoretically agree to it. Also that is why I am for Gay Marriage being legal because now we have evolved from the olden times before JFK where men and women weren't even equal or maybe all the way back where blacks and whites were seperated.

"Another thing is, the average person living from paycheck to paycheck, can only do one thing for human race: have a baby. That is the human life cycle; birth, reproduce, die. A gay couple cannot do that." Who says people have to reproduce, do people have to give birth to a child, even when a man and a woman marry are they forced to have a baby?

To some of my points:

if people want to marry other wo/men then let them why should we interfere with there personal concerns.
Gay people are still people and should have all the rights that we have, religion, race, rights everything including marriage.

Thank you for this debate it has been great,
Hope to debate you again soon,
righty10294

Con

Hello

"Yes it could be considered a religion under some people's eyes."

What religion? There has never been one for gay marriage for 1,000 years, and now all the sudden people want it to be legal, and it's a religion. That doesn't make sense.

"we have evolved from the olden times"

So? What's your point? I think that there are some principles of are country should never be changed, and that would include gay marriage.

"Who says people have to reproduce, do people have to give birth to a child, even when a man and a woman marry are they forced to have a baby?"

I'm not saying they have to have a baby. But in generalization, most couples have a natural baby, while gay couples can only adopt kids. Where do you come up with ideas that I'm saying that a man and woman have to have a baby?

"if people want to marry other wo/men then let them why should we interfere with there personal concerns."

We are interfering with them, for their own good. If 2 people get married of the same sex, they will be discriminated against, and it will ruin their lives. We are protecting them from not getting married. Also, if they ever adopted a kid, he/she would be made fun of. IN today's day, kid are getting fun pf today just for being adopted, now add in having gay marriage. This would ruin the kids childhood, because he would be afraid of going to school, because of the thought of being made fun.

Thank you for this debate
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Posted by katieJ8 9 years ago
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Why does it always come back to religion and the founding fracking fathers. For crying out loud people. This isn't the freaking 1700s. Humanity is changing. And to remark about that whole having babies thing THE WORLD IS OVER POPULATED. Did you know families in China and Japan are limited to how many kids they have. Sometimes they abort just because its a girl. Gay marriage is not as major as people make it sound. It will not end the world. *Shut up* It is our right to choose. That is one of the ideas this country is built on. The right to choose. That may not be what they were thinking at the time but its the truth. It is our right not only as US citizens but as humans. What right do you have to decide for us?
Posted by gonovice 9 years ago
gonovice
why are people so against gays?
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