Gay Marriage
Voting Style: | Open | Point System: | 7 Point | ||
Started: | 12/29/2013 | Category: | Politics | ||
Updated: | 4 years ago | Status: | Post Voting Period | ||
Viewed: | 726 times | Debate No: | 43106 |
I am excited to debate this topic as my second debate ever. I am fully aware that this topic is very overdone, however I felt that a majority of debates on this topic were poorly constructed and resorted to personal attacks and poor conduct. I also will find it an important matter to discuss as long as its not legal in some states.
Rules: No religious arguments shall partake in any part of this debate. No personal insults or attacks. No sarcasm or rudeness. A calm, intelligent, thought-provoking debate. Forfeits shall result in a 7-point loss to the offender. Burden of proof is shared.
Round 2: Core Case (No rebuttals allowed in Round 2) Round 3: Rebuttals (No new arguments in Round 3 by either PRO or CON)
I decided to accept this for a challenge. Although I am personally a lesbian, I also know the opposing side very well and will be arguing against something I am normally a huge advocate for |
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Thank you, Tacklethedog, for accepting. I look forward to a good debate. I tried to keep this short and to the point. Without further ado:
Contention #2: Being Gay/Lesbian isn't a Choice: Studies and research suggest that sexuality is determined at a very young age, possibly even at conception. Regardless, all of these studies suggest that everyone's sexuality is beyond their control. The fact that they can't marry someone that they love because of something that is determined at birth and is beyond their control, shows striking similarities to back when blacks were considered slaves to white masters in the 1800s, as well as back when women were seen as a lesser person than men some decades ago. Just as one cannot decide their ethnicity and gender, one cannot decide their sexuality. Gays and lesbians are simply the biggest group being discriminated against currently just as blacks and women used to be. Allowing them to have all of the same rights as straight people will bring justice and equality among all people no matter who they are.
Proof that being gay isn't a choice: The brains of gay men are more similar to the brains of women than they are straight men.
Also, lesbians sex hormones react differently to straight women as do gay men to straight men. Again, this validly shows that our sexuality is not a choice.
http://articles.latimes.com...
[1]: Civil unions are not officially recognized, therefore the rights granted by the union will not travel from state to state, in contrast to actual marriage. This is a grave injustice that should be prevented.
[2]: Civil unions are not recognized by 14% of employers. Therefore, 14% of employers will deny their LGB employees full, legally guaranteed marriage benefits. Again this is legally discrimination. Bearing the name 'marriage' will prevent this injustice from happening. (Figures come from New Jersey).
http://www.alternet.org...'t_enough
http://data.lambdalegal.org...
Take this into consideration: Massachusetts, the first state in the United States has the lowest divorce rate in the entire country! Seems like gays are doing fine! http://www.nbcchicago.com...
Six. Hundred. Eighty. Four. Million. Dollars. On. Wedding. Services. Think of that. That can happen so long as people vote for gay marriage.
“During the three-year period, the researchers project that about half of the state's more than 100,000 same-sex couples will get married and another 68,000 out-of-state couples will travel to California to exchange vows. The nuptial rush is expected to create some 2,200 jobs.”
Thousands of jobs opened should gay marriage be legalized!
Sounds great!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com... Footnote: Something I feel I have to say: spouses who are married receive so many benefits that are only allowed to married couples. It is a major violation of human rights to not let same sex couples receive these benefits simply because of their sexual orientation. I hope this wasn't too long. Thank you for reading. I eagerly await your response, CON.
Case closed.
Tacklethedog forfeited this round. |
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My opponent has unfortunately decided to forfeit this debate. I was afraid something like this would happen.
Extend all arguments. Tacklethedog forfeited this round. |
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Well, if we're to be creative you could debate debate, debate language, debate definitions, debate the label "gay," debate laws, debate government, debate capitalism, debate in another language, debate that the debate is ethnocentric, etc lol.
@Tacklethedog: My apologies that I referenced to you being straight a few times in my debate as I had written most of it before you accepted. Thanks again for accepting the debate!
@JustAnotherGuy: Nah. It would be for my side anyway. Separation of church and state should have probably been added to my rounds. It's just a more legal way of rejecting religion from this debate.