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The Bible condemns same sex marriage and is classified as a sin here:
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
"1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV) (A)
Obviously if you are not a Christian, this does not apply. However, the United States was based on Christian values. "We are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable right." That is from the Declaration of Independence. Creator is capitalized because it implies the Christian God. Our founders intentionally capitalized the "C". So, if we truly are a Christian nation, we should allow the Bible to guide our decisions as a country.
The second conflict is with the U.S. Constitution.
The 10th amendment contains these clauses:
"It expresses the principle of federalism, which strictly supports the entire plan of the original Constitution for the United States of America, by stating that the federal government possesses only those powers delegated to it by the United States Constitution. All remaining powers are reserved for the states or the people."(B)
Therefore, because same sex marriage is not included in the U.S. Constitution, it is delegated to the states to decide.
However, this decision was made incorrectly by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2015 that same sex marriage is legal in every state. Now that is an entire new debate.
Secondly the topic is gay marriage. I am supposed to be arguing why is should be legal and you should be arguing why it should not be, not why it doesn't have to be legal.
Also when I said "I don't know why it legal everywhere" I meant the whole world, because gay marriage has already been made legal in all 50 states by the supreme court.
Jesus also said:
"And He answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning "made them male and female,""
"Matthew 19:4 (NKJV)
"But from the beginning of the creation, God "made them male and female.""
"Mark 10:6 (NKJV)(A)
Now it is true that Jesus will forgive our sins if we accept him, but on the issue of homosexuality that is false. Here is why. If you commit and sin and ask for forgiveness, the Lord will forgive you. However, homosexuality is different because you are constantly living in sin. How can you be forgiven without confessing? Above you said, "if you accept Jesus into your heart he will forgive you for your sins. Jesus died so sins such as this can be forgiven." You classify homosexuality as a sin here. If you are living in constant sin I believe you cannot be forgiven. It's not my job to condemn you though, your heart and what you believe is between you and the Lord.
Next, your argument was not clear to me, sorry about that.
Of course it can't be made legal everywhere. Each nation has different laws and governments. If we allow same sex marriage, this would not fulfill God's purpose/plan to fill and multiply the people of His earth. Lots of religions do not support same sex marriage, that is why the world will not and should not legalize same sex marriage.
I encourage you to check out the link below for a look at what the Bible says about marriage.
I know it can't be legal everywhere. I am just saying I think it should be, it would be irrational to think it could be legal everywhere.
It should not be anyone's right to decide who should be allowed to marry. Think about it this way. You find an amazing man/woman and they are all you would hope you would find in a person, you couldn't picture your life without them, then people ridicule you and make fun of you and beat you for loving that person. This is what many gay/lesbian people go through.
I'm confused on you're argument because it is more of an opinion.
"I know it can't be legal everywhere. I am just saying I think it should be, it would be irrational to think it could be legal everywhere."
What am I arguing against? You just proved my point by saying "it can't be legal everywhere." You're right, it cannot be legal everywhere!
I understand your argument when you say these gay/lesbian folks love somebody and cannot live without them. But in a world that God created, and with a Bible that condemns the act of homosexuality, I among lots of other people cannot agree with same sex marriage. I will not discriminate, Jesus says to love everyone, but I cannot agree with same sex marriage.
I appreciate my opponent debating this issue with religion involved. This was a tough debate, and I respect all that she has said.
I hope my message was clear. Thank you!
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Vote Placed by RainbowDash52 11 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro mostly just asserted that people should be able marry whoever they want, but didn't really substantiate that argument. Con made an argument that the constitution states gay marriage is a states issue, therefor should not be legal in the entire US but only certain states. Since Pro explained that the debate was over world wide legalization, and Con showed that it should be illegal in some states, and Pro did not rebuttal the argument, Con wins.
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