Gender isn't alterable- we're either female or male
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Let's get right down to it.
1. Quite simply, when we're born we are either male or a female.
2. Having false beliefs about our gender identity can be classified as a disorder. Think of an anorexic who thinks (s)he's fat when (s)he's really not.
I believe people with any type of disorder deserve compassion. This includes not indulging their false beliefs about themselves, just as we shouldn't go around telling anorexics their fat
1. According to the Oxford Dictionary, gender is defined as "The state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)". Gender isn't a biological trait that you are born with, it's simply a social class.
2. There are procedures that can allow one to obtain the features of the opposite sex. Thus it is alterable.
I can see why you'd like to argue that gender is more cultural and social rather than biological- we both know there is no disputing biology, chromosomes, and genitalia.
Yet you contradicted yourself in saying that sex-change procedures (biological alterations) change a person's gender. If gender is purely social and cultural, how does one of these procedures alter one's gender?
I'd like to take a look at your first point. You're completely right, however, I fail to see how this makes gender or sex unalterable. One may be born blonde but later on in life, they change it to brown.
I'd also like to mention that a disorder is a condition that affects a person's well being. How does being transgender affect anyone's health? Anorexia is a serious issue that can cause death. How does that compare?
"How does being transgender affect anyone's health?"
Entertaining a delusion challenges nature and reality. (I promise you, nature and reality will always win.)
Since transgenders are up against these unthinkable opponents, they're often experiencing great mental turmoil. This can seriously affect their mental health
If you don't believe me consider that transgenders are 20 times more likely to commit suicide than we are.
So do blacks, Jews, Mexicans, gays etc..
But they don't have a suicide nearly as tragic as our fellow transgenders.
That's because being black, Jewish, Mexican, or gay isn't the result of a mental illness.
And in case you're going to say transgenders experience harsher discrimination, tell that to the Jews. They still have it pretty hard...
They also state, "Force released a report in 2011 entitled Injustice at Every Turn, which confirmed the pervasive and severe discrimination faced by transgender people."
I said "mental illness"- which is "characterized by dysregulation of mood, thought, and/or behavior" (cdc.gov)
Anyways, your definition said "only if it causes distress OR disability.
So if a condition doesn't cause distress, as long as it is disabling, it fits your credentials.
Delusion is disabling, so being transgender perfectly fits your definition of a psychological state.
This is my last post. I appreciate your time.
Maybe we could hang? ;)
You also said that it is a disability because of the mental distress causes. So then, how can you still argue that it is a disability in cases where there is no distress?
And even if we were to call it an illness, it doesn't change the fact that gender and sex are indeed alterable.
I thank for your time as well. I look forward to any future conversations.
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