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jlholtzapple
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Im_always_right
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54 Points

George w. bush is a good president

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Started: 8/7/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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jlholtzapple

Pro

George w. Bush is consistently blamed for the war on terror. Since you are young you might not remember, but when the attack happened people all wanted to declare war on terror. President Bush stated that the war would last more than his term in office.

Farther more the American public has lost their patience and their patriotism. We are not fighting to just help these countries but to protect our own. War is not something that can be fixed over night it takes a long time.
Im_always_right

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I thank my opponent for challenging me to this debate. Here are some key points, I would like to point out.

Bush is good...to those that will benefit him.
However, you are incorrect. Bush lied in order to get the war on Iraq, but, everyone was supporting him on the war in Afgahnistan.

Furhermore, GWB does not even know how to say a correct sentence. I have no idea how America was STUPID enough to elect such an idiot into office, twice.

"Fool me once.....shame on....shame on you.....fool me a-and you can't be fooled again."
-president George W Bush.

some of his better work:

My point, he is NOT a good president, and anyone who is for the US, should be opposed to Bush, and vise versa.
Debate Round No. 1
jlholtzapple

Pro

First, I would like to state that we are not at war on Iraq, we are at war on terrorism. When 911 happened we thought Afganistan was solely responsible, later to find out the terrorist were from iraq and iran also. Besides, youtube is not a credable source.

Off the subject of war, George w. Bush has passed a bill (no child left behind), which helps students keep on track through tests. It also sets a standard level of education a student needs, so that no student is not ready for independent life. It also, awards the schools, that do good on the standardized test.

George w. Bush was obviously liked by the majority of Americans because he was elected twice.
Im_always_right

Con

Bush has reached an all time low aproval rating, all time meaning of any past (or present) president here is the link to prove such:

http://www.cnn.com...

here is the popular vote:

http://www.infoplease.com...

MORE people wanted Albert A. Gore Jr.

Thus most Americans do not aprove of George W. Bush.

No child left behind (NCLB) is NOT more good than bad. it is only good for children who are not as smart as others. It makes (sorry if this offends anyone) dumb kids and makes them a little smarter, at the expense of the smarter kids. the grades it matters (1-5) is not set up equally. Meaning it is not split up in classes like 6-12. In the younger grades, children are LUCKEY to have Science/socialstudies for 5 mins a day every other week (alternating). That is what my school did when NCLB came into being. I talked to kids from other schools and they had no sceice or social studies, and almost no language arts. Not to mention because of it children ae missing out on PE, creating less exercise, not to mention nasty schooll food that is unhealthy, add those together, that is the reason the youth is generally overweight.

Thus Bush= not a good president, but maybe a good comedian.

That ladies and gentlemen is why I am opposed to Bush as our leader, he might be a good person with good ideas (and a horrible way of speaking them), but should not be our leader.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Lexicaholic 5 years ago
Lexicaholic
RFD: Con
(1) Con.
(2) Con.
(3) Tie.
(4) Tie.
(5) Con, Pro's points were inaccurate. We can not fight a war against terror. We can not fight a war against drugs. We can not fight a war against anything not flesh and blood, with the will and desire to oppose us.
(6) Con, only one to use any sources.
Posted by jlholtzapple 5 years ago
jlholtzapple
And just because things are bad we should pull out, sorry but this country is better than that, what if we just gave up during ww2 ( by the way that war was much more serrious) but if we just gave up then and there where would we be today, being led by Hitler and his followers you think we have it so bad now what about in that day it was way worse, so my point is that this country is strong and we would be giving up our freedom if we just gave up, other countrys would see us as cowerds so liberal media is try to turn this country into something it is not!
Posted by Im_always_right 5 years ago
Im_always_right
Yes I didn't doas good as I could have, I had like 5 debates at the time, I should have waited to take the challenge, so I am still very surprised I am winning and by this much...
Posted by Leftymorgan 5 years ago
Leftymorgan
With all this anti-Bush, has anyone looked at Congresses numbers? They are half the presidents. I am in agreement with Barack on change, but we need to vote out the old 6 year plus persons in office and get all new blood. Then they need to set term limits for all of them. I believe that would get rid of the lobbyists or at the very least knock down all that damn pork that winds up in the various bills and laws.
Posted by olivertheexpando 6 years ago
olivertheexpando
I wonder why they are left wing... Oh i know, its because they have reported how bad things have gotten, economically, over seas, and constitutionally.
Posted by jlholtzapple 6 years ago
jlholtzapple
not true most news media is left wing
Posted by CiRrO 6 years ago
CiRrO
Uh, Karoz, you fail to see that I have provided 4 sources, not jsut one. Also I balanced it. Fox leans right and the Washington Post leans left. Don't be so ignorant. >.>
Posted by jlholtzapple 6 years ago
jlholtzapple
Jesus was perfect, us on earth are not some more perfect than others, Jesus also lived in a different time period
Posted by Karoz 6 years ago
Karoz
I noticed in your profile it says you're a Christian. But Jesus was a liberal, for your information.
Posted by jlholtzapple 6 years ago
jlholtzapple
may I say this no I dont watch tv because it is full of liberal media, (which all they do is say the oppisite of what republicans like me, are for)
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