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loveu157
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"God Bless America Should stay on our Money

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/2/2014 Category: Economics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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bettabreeder

Pro

I believe that "God Bless America" should remain printed on U.S money. If you disagree please debate with me as Con stating you dislike the U.S keeping this quote on our money.

Rules:
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cite your sources
Correct Grammar and spelling

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Debate Round No. 1
bettabreeder

Pro

The United States of America was founded by mainly by Christianity, The pilgrams came for religous freedom from the king of England in the early 1600's. They today are celebrated on Thanksgiving for having the first Thanksgiving and for giving thanks what goes backs through Christian roots. Also Many states where founded of Christian coustoms like Maryland. It was a Cathoic Colony founded by lord Baltimore and got its name after The Vigin Mary. This Here is the Cossland Banner witch is on the state flag of Maryland and was a secessioist flag during the Civil War too.s://upload.wikimedia.org...; alt="" width="495" height="330" />

This Country is quite religous too if you think about it. The Southern states contain the "Bible Belt" The South hold abouts 15% of the county be area so think about the peo
ple that will be more religous than the others outside of the Bible Belt.
loveu157

Con

Alright now to refute.

I will use a big font also as not to confuse the reader.

You bring up the fact that the united states of america was founded mainly by christain pilgrims. They came and joined forces with a native american tribe to overthrow a different one. They later regrouped and had a feast. SO. Before pilgrims were in america there where native americans as discoverd by coloumbus. Theses tribes were polytheistic and did not have just one god. If they had paper money it would say "in GOD'S we trust." But, Christian pilgrims came to america instead. They overthrew the native americans and adopted christian ideals. SO, is this why we should have in god we trust on our money? The awnser is a solid NO. You talk about a christian god that we trust in. Your reasonign for that is due to a majority of christians in america. It would of been acceptable for early americans becuase they were all christians but Now america is full of different people.

you forget that things have changed now. We have a right to freedom of religion and a seperation between church and state. America is full of jew's, Christains, and many other religions. Money issued by the government should not have religious meaning attached to them.


You might say it honors the lands history. If it does it then should say In gods we trust on our money becuase of the native american people who lived here.
Debate Round No. 2
bettabreeder

Pro

They came and joined forces with a native american tribe to overthrow a different one.

The Pilgrams and the Natives Americans both belived in God(s). They were all differernt or might of had more than one we all had a God of some sort. The US currency isnt saying on it the Christian God or Islamic Gods its just saying God, so all religons can work on this. The Pilgrams were accually nice to the Natives and they both helped each other out with living.

It would of been acceptable for early americans becuase they were all christians but Now america is full of different people.

The United States of America was built of religous foundings. In the Northern States or New England or Middle Colonies they Christians skirmished to the new world to find religous freedom from the English King. Farther South people wanted to settle the land for agracultural uses to grow plants like Tobbacco and Cotton on Plantations. Just Saying. The currency is defianly recuring to the Christian God but the Jewish God Yahweh is still a God too, same with the Native Americans, they belive in some sort Gods as with the Muslims.

http://www.catholic.com...





loveu157

Con

Although I aprreciate the effort. You have failed to refute any of my points.

The Pilgrams and the Natives Americans both belived in God(s). They were all differernt or might of had more than one we all had a God of some sort. The US currency isnt saying on it the Christian God or Islamic Gods its just saying God, so all religons can work on this. The Pilgrams were accually nice to the Natives and they both helped each other out with living.

In god we trust is singular. This means that we are saying no to multiple god belivers which is completely unfair. To many people who live in america and exercise their free will. There is still seperattion between church and state which means that on goverment issued bills there should not be anything about god.


The United States of America was built of religous foundings.

I already adressed this. In my last argument. It doesnt matter what happened in the past for this argument. It only matters about culture today.

We have seperation between church and state. Its says so in the constitiution. This is what america is built on. Not religion.
Debate Round No. 3
bettabreeder

Pro

bettabreeder forfeited this round.
loveu157

Con

loveu157 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Adrilidexus 3 years ago
Adrilidexus
...Ookay, I think we've got ourselves a bit of an error in history.

The southern colonies were not for agriculture. Some were prison colonies where those arrested could pay dues as slaves, and then live on the land. The New England colonies were founded by the Puritans, and following after, the English took hold. The middle colonies are when Englanders started to settle, not for religious reasons whatsoever.

Again, please cite sources, and please use other examples. Right now, if I were to vote, I would vote on con's end, because Pro does not hold a good stance.
Posted by Adrilidexus 3 years ago
Adrilidexus
Pro needs to elaborate on the religious background of the American history, and provide sources other than wikis.

Con needs to elaborate further on the cultural and religious differences in today's society.
Posted by Auxo 3 years ago
Auxo
Pro has already broken their rules.
Posted by EndarkenedRationalist 3 years ago
EndarkenedRationalist
Oh, I could semantic the daylights out of this one.
Posted by Abunai 3 years ago
Abunai
Our currency says "In God We Trust," not "God Bless America." Lol
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Vote Placed by aburk903 3 years ago
aburk903
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Reasons for voting decision: No relevant sources presented by either side. The spelling and grammar was atrocious- does spell check not know the word pilgrim? Ultimately, this comes down to the fact that Con at least cited the Constitution's "separation of church and state", to overpower Pro's arguments of personal belief.