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wjmelements
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Tinkerbell
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God allowed the death penalty in the Old Testament.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/27/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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wjmelements

Pro

The death penalty is death as punishment for certain crimes.

This is not a debate over the justification of the death penalty or whether it shoud be done; it is over the Old Testament and what it says.

One example for the Pro (which is all I need) is:
"Men and women among you who act as mediums or psychics must be put to death by stoning. They are guilty of a capital offense"
-Leviticus 20:27 (NLT)

Another would be:
"One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Isralite men. During the fight, the son of an Israelite woman blaspehmed the Lord's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgement. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Debri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the Lord's will in the matter should become clear.
Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the Lord's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the Lord's name will surely die.' "
-Leviticus 24:10-16 (NLT)

In the last example, the Lord directly told his people to use the death penalty.

Leviticus was the third book of the Bible and is in the Old Testament.

In another book of the Old Testament, the death penalty is also mentioned:
"If someone has committed a crime worthy of death and is executed and then hanged on a tree, the body must never remain on the tree overnight..."
-Deuteronomy 21:22 (NLT)

Therefore, God says that some crimes can be worthy of death.

Again, later in the same book, another example of capital crime is announced. This passage is refferring to adultry:
"But suppose the man's accusations are true, and her virginity could not be proved. In such cases the judges must take the girl to the door of her father's home, and the men of the town will stone her to death. She has committed a disgraceful crime in Israel by becoming promiscuos while living in her parent's home. Such evil must be cleansed from among you.
If a man is discovered committing adultry, both he and the other man's wife must be killed. In this way, the evil will be cleansed from Israel."
-Deuteronomy 22:20-22

I appreciate the prospect of this debate.
Tinkerbell

Con

An example that I have is:
You shall not commit murder.
-Deuteronomy 5:17 NIV

In Leviticus 24:15 it says " Say to the Israelites:"If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible." You stated that they blasphemed God's names, they did not commit a crime the basically just disrespected God. So God is saying to punish man who blasphemes his name.
Debate Round No. 1
wjmelements

Pro

God says multiple times not to commit murder, but also he says multiple times which crimes should result in death.

God would not contradict himself if He is all-knowing, so He must not consider the death penalty to be murder.

Tinkerbell uses the quote from Leviticus 24:15, "Say to the Israelites:"If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible."
Tinkerbell's conclusion was: "So God is saying to punish man who blasphemes his name."

In the very next verse, God tells the people of Israel how to punish people who do blaspheme his name:
" 'Anyone who blasphemes the Lord's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the Lord's name will surely die.' "
Tinkerbell

Con

Tinkerbell forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
wjmelements

Pro

You should vote pro because my arguments weren't negated in the first round and stood. god did warrant the death penalty as punishment for many crimes. I only gave a few example, which was all necessary to prove the resolution.
Tinkerbell

Con

Tinkerbell forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by my.matryoshka 8 years ago
my.matryoshka
I don't see how Con can refute this. It's common knowledge.
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