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God broke his own commandments and should face scrutiny like humans do.

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Started: 9/13/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 month ago Status: Debating Period
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Many people are aware that God gave the 10 Commandments to Israel from Mount Sinai, as recorded in Exodus 20:1-17. This event occurred about two months after Israel left Egypt.

"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.

Why should this judgement rule be only subject to humans and angels? Just because he's God and he says so?'

Considering the commandments were published by God himself shouldn't he follow the same rules he set himself? Quite ironically he has broken one of these 10 commandments.

"Thou shalt not kill" ... hmmm.. Seems to me he has broken this multiple times. Example 1 : The genocide of the Canaanites. In 1 Samuel 15:2-3, God commanded Saul and the Israelite's, "This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'" God ordered similar things when the Israelite's were invading the promised land (Deuteronomy 2:34; 3:6; 20:16-18). Why would God have the Israelite's exterminate an entire group of people, women and children included?

Now why would God, a paradigm of wisdom and full of love want to exterminate children? Because they were worshiping false idols? Seems to me to be a capricious, cynical, and uncaring judgement if he sees the events beforehand. If God has total foreknowledge of who does what and when, then what is the point of free will and judging anyone for what they do? There is also no point to have a heaven or hell if he knows who goes to which and at what time and for what reason. Either God has a plan, or you have free will. You cannot have both because they are irreconcilable. Which in return makes existing a living hell to have to "love" something that we can't even completely prove exists based on faith alone. To put your faith into something that is entirely anecdotal and hypothetical is to take something at face value without question, which in return can destroy your integrity has a human. Although I will concede that morality is subjective. The reason morality is subjective is because the conception of "sin" is a social construct, as is everything. You cannot justify objective morality because it stems from subjectiveness. So if God's reasoning and judgement is subjective, why should we care what he thinks is right and wrong?

Challenge: Prove that this reasoning is illogical and false.


You chose the con side of this debate BTW.
Anyway, that verse actualy says "thou shalt not murder," this doesn't exclude killing as a judgement for crimes. Infact that is everywhere in the Tanakh, and you should agreee on these,

Exodus 21:23-25:

"But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

Deuteronomy 22:25:

"If a man finds a betrothed young woman in the countryside, and the man rapes her, the man who lay with her shall die."

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Posted by Perussi 1 month ago
You also fudged up because you are con XD.
Posted by Perussi 1 month ago
OMGoodness you are ignorant.
Posted by gametheorist 1 month ago
I would debate if God existed. Too bad he doesn't, though. Live your life, because there's nothing after it!
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