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mostlogical
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God exists.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/26/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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CatsCatsMeth

Con

If God exists and created every one of us, then why did he make some people gay. He called gay people an abomination (which hey aren't) yet still seems to create them. Also, heaven is supposedly perfect yet if it was then it wouldn't have people with free will inside it and it is restriction of another to remove their free will, a sin. Heaven and God therefore must be sinful and that is a contradiction, therefore God is made up by the people to explain why things happen and to get rid of things they do not like and control them (ie Gay people).
mostlogical

Pro

Argument 1: Gay people exist

Why are there gay people? This is like asking why does evil exist. The answer is because God gave us free will. Homosexuals choose to be gay through choosing their primary goal. God doesn't choose anyone's goal for them, he makes it possible for us to achieve a high goal. Gay people can have a high goal, but because they have to take it in turns to be emotionally happy they can't truly be what God wants them to be.

Argument 2: People have free will in Heaven

Revelation 21:4 says "He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” So according to the Bible there will be no pain, or suffering in heaven. However no-one can really know for certain what heaven is like but it probably won't be anything like life on Earth.

Argument 3: God is made up

Imagine a boy says 'the Sun prevents cancer' and then says 'it doesn't really, I made it up', the fact he made this up doesn't make it untrue. Though the Sun causes cancer, and what he says is contradictory, he is actually correct. Therefore proof by contradiction does not establish the truth (unless perhaps you're solving a maths problem).


Evidence that God exists:

There are around 2.18 Billion Christians who have a relationship with God (~1/3 of global population) [1]

There are between 0.7 Billion and 1.9 Billion Muslims who have a relationship with God/Allah (~1/4 of the global population [2]

God is a huge part of their lives, and has an influence on them, therefore God exists

sources:
[1] http://www.pewforum.org...
[2] https://sites.google.com...




Debate Round No. 1
CatsCatsMeth

Con

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mostlogical

Pro

Love exists
God is love
Therefore God exists
Debate Round No. 2
CatsCatsMeth

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
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