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Started: 10/16/2014 Category: Cars
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيم

I bear witness that the Blackman and Blackwoman are God in its Supreme Condensation. And Therefore, the Fathers and Mothers of all events following

لا إِلَهَ إِلا اللهُ


BoP is on Pro
Debate Round No. 1


بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيم

First we'll need to define "God". Let's assume the common definition, being: "The creator of all things" and/or "The eternal essence of all things" or something to that affect.

In that case, then "God" would need to not only assume but possess the quality (s) suitable for these roles.
Logically, the color of Black contains all colors on the spectrum. Therefore, God must be (based on our definition (s)) Black.

And if we assume that "God" lives in and/or is a part of all things it creates, then logic would assume the supreme representation of God to be Black in both metaphorical and literal terms.

God is the totality of everything that was, is, and will ever be. Therefore, God cannot create anything it didn't already contain mentally.

The mind precedes ALL 7 densities of creation in the order of: magnetism, electricity, light, ether, gas, liquid, and solid. Each condensation contains the previous condensation. Therefore, If all creation stems from the Mind of God, then God literally remains present throughout all densities of creation. Even "material" or what you call "human"

لا إله إلا الله


Pro has defined God to mean:
1) The creator of all things
2) The eternal essence of all things

Now, Pro has also defined God as having the attribute of being "black".

This means that Pro has asserted that God is physical/material. This is because the only things in which can have a color are material.

Now, if God was real (using the definition provided), then God would necessarily be immaterial seeing as the Big Bang was the point in which all material things came into being. If God is material, then God could not have created all things. If God is immaterial, then God cannot have the attribute of being the color "black".

Pro then asserts the attribute of omnipresence to God by saying, " if we assume that "God" lives in and/or is a part of all things it creates"

If this were true, then would God be "black" or "multicolor"?
A Panda is considered "black" AND "white", not just black.

Pro then claims, "God is the totality of everything that was, is, and will ever be. Therefore, God cannot create anything it didn't already contain mentally."

Which, like almost everything that has been said, is unsupported assertion.


For the purpose of this debate, I will assume that there is a god (even though I do not agree with that). I will even accept the definition provided from Pro that God is the creator of all things.

Now, all other expansions on qualities/attributes of God must be supported.

So far, Pro has failed to support these assertions of his:
1) God is material.
If this is not an assertion that Pro is making, then it is not logical for God, an immaterial being, to have a color.

2) God is omnipresent.
For the accepted definition of God, omnipresence is not a required attribute. Since it is a further assertion, it needs to be backed up.

3) God is everything that ever was, is, and will be.
Since, for the purpose of this debate, we have God being creator of the universe, I will be taking the stance that the A-Theory of Time is correct, following the KCA. In A-Theory, the only thing that actually exists is the present. No past, no future. Pro has to now show that there is a past and future, and show that God is everything.

4) The mind precedes all things.
This does not need to be the case, and could very easily be considered wrong. Since we are both assuming a god exists for this debate, dualism does seem like a good philosophical position to hold, but that does not mean that the mind is not physical. Pro must back up that claim.


I look forward to seeing how Pro manages to support these 4 assumptions.
Debate Round No. 2


بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيم

I've already presented "support" for my claim.

Factual "support" only comes from Logic, which is divine orderly thinking, which also comes from God, whom is Black. Just as the ether which "supports" every condensation from the mind of God is Black in color. Nothing is arbitrary

Your idea of support stems from misunderstanding of universal law.

"Dualism" as you've put it only exists in creation. Creation is anything that condenses from the mind of God in the 7 stages I've provided (magnetism, electricity, light, ether, gas, liquid, and solid).
All things exist as infinite potential before consolidating from the mind of God into Polarities.
ALL condensations, as stated, contain the previous condensation. Therefore, God remains present throughout everything it creates -- wherever that creation goes, also making God omnipresent, which is a necessary attribute of God based on the rules of mental condensation.

"Materialism" as you've put it most commonly categorizes with solids, liquids, and gases (which are condensations of the mind of God). Following the rules of condensation stated in my last paragraph and previous post, God is a material being as well. "Immaterialism" as you've put it most commonly categorizes as ether, light, electricity, and magnetism.

"Time" is a planetary effect via the Sun. Suns are a density of creation, the most common being that of Light, and since both light and sound rely on Ether to travel (which is also Black), and by following the rules of condensation, then God exists both "in" and "outside " of what we call "space and time". And because is the creator of the Sun, which creates time, then God is everything that was, is, and will ever be. I'll grant your statement about the "Present" to be true for those who exist "outside" of "space and time".

Eternity is a difficult concept for anything that is not God, because only God can understand its nature in totality and God is eternal. Everything God creates now becomes restricted to "space and time" once it leaves the Mind of God. But the comprehensive concept of "God" cannot be created because it is eternal - which simply means that which preceded what we call "space and time"

Creation itself is a reflection of God's qualities. As it goes with the color Black which is a "visible" representation of the eternal nature of God, containing all things that ever was, is, and will ever be. Human beings have 5 physical senses that process the God data which covers every inch of the Earth and Universe.

لا إله إلا الله


Pro has decided that instead of supporting his assertions, to claim that it is supported and to make more assertions.

New assertions:

1) The ether exists.

2) Dualism only exists in creation.

3) All things exist as infinite potential before consolidating from the mind of God into Polarities.

4) Materialism deals with different states of matter.

5) Light, electricity, and magnetism are immaterial.

6) Time only exists as a planetary effect from the Earth and Sun.

7) Humans have only 5 physical senses.

These, combined with the 4 previous assertions, have had no support for them proposed by Pro.

Since the full BoP is on Pro, I do not have to make any arguments as no argument my opponent has made is backed up. Some of them go completely against science.

1) Retrocausality requires time to actually exist (
2) Light is material (, electricity is material, magnetism is material (
3) We actually have more than 5 senses (
4) God cannot be material due to the Big Bang creating the material, and God (by the definition of this debate) caused the Big Bang, and therefore cannot be material. Something cannot cause itself (Lawrence Krauss "A Universe from Nothing").
5) If God is everything then God is nothing due to the net energy of the universe being 0 (
6) The Mind, as far as all evidence points to, is part of the brain, and therefore cannot precede all things.

My opponent has made assertion after assertion without backing it up. Some of his assertions are clearly, as shown above, wrong.
Debate Round No. 3


بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيم

Lol... You all are hilarious. Ok I forfeit :)

قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ
ٱللَّهُ ٱلصَّمَدُ
لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ
وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُۥ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌۢ


Pro has forfeited, vote Con.
Debate Round No. 4


Blackangel forfeited this round.


Pro forfeited, vote Con.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Blackangel 1 year ago
Absolutely. But things aren't always what they seem.
In the Bible God says in Jeremiah 29:11 "For I know the plans I have for you"
In the Quran God says in Surah Baqarah verse 30 "Surely, I know that which you know not"

لا إله إلا الله
Posted by cheyennebodie 1 year ago
The fathers and mothers of all events. Such as the extreme poverty in too many African nations. The genocide in some of those nations. The Ebola outbreak .
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