God is Evil
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I will argue that God is evil. Con will argue that God isn't evil. In this argument we will not argue God's existence.
I think that God is evil because it is given that He's omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent, yet evil exists in this imperfect world. Ergo, there are three options: God isn't omnipotent, God is evil or God doesn't exist. Because we are not arguing God's existence, I propose that God is evil.
By virtue of 'what is' we cannot say good is ever evil or evil is ever good.
They stand alone.
What one can conclude is that the story within our Bible and other texts are telling of ONE contradictory thing...God created the Angels 'to not be able to die.' He maintains control of them but this was not always so as we are told of a huge battle when Lucifer and his 1/3 of angels (demons) tried to take control of God's domain.
So obviously God made a 'mistake' in creating creatures that He could not totally destroy. Mistakes are not either 'Evil' or 'Good' ....both sides of those contrasts can make mistakes.
Gods incapacity to understand EVIL by virtue of his unadulterated GOOD created that 'mistake.'
The truth of his great power lies in how He turned that Evil to GOOD. Who of us would know a difference or learned true sympathy or empathy or built TRUE character without the results of Evil.
Living through 'BAD (Evil)' is what can create the greatest and most powerfully of exceptional character and what creates the people who can overcome the world to become 'good souls' worthy of becoming a value to our existence and beyond.
If God is all powerful then He made things just as he wanted and if He sees all then He knew evil would exist. But given that He doesn't understand evil then He isn't all powerful. Nevertheless, scripture says the following:
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." [Isaiah 45:7]
So He knew what He was doing. He could even prevent evil. Something infinitely good can't make systems that result in a bad consequence unless He isn't all powerful.
"Thine eyes are too pure to approve evil, and Thou canst not look on wickedness with favor," (Hab. 1:13).
The translation of EVIL...in your posted argument is often translated for other 'words' which most often are indicative of the word CALAMITY as a purer translation...the original word was 'Rah.'
You are confusing the word EVIL....with the actual truth that God often does interfere in our lives and that of those before us to cause 'problems' that CHASTISE us and that TEACH us things we need to learn.
Just like any good parent!!!
EVIL is the creation of Satan and quite often the CHOICE of men.
God gives us FREE CHOICE and while He may forgive us when we learn our lessons we still suffer the human consequences on this Earth for what we do....what others who have done wrong has caused us....and sometimes what God sees fit to put us through to make us much better human beings.
The Ultimate goal of course is making us (as many as possible) FIT to be a spirit being and to add goodness to God's realm.
Your use of the word EVIL is the problem here....you are confusing punishment or our God giving us 'lessons' for immoral EVIL. The two are quite horribly different.
He could have made a better world than the one we live now, with no need to learn from "calamities" or "evil" things. We wouldn't need choice because we wouldn't need to choose between good or evil because evil wouldn't exist. To put choice in the equation is to put evil in the equation. Wouldn't it be easier to just create something purely good? Why create an angel that could turn evil so He could sacrifice Himself to Himself so He could save us from the choices He put there in the first place?
Evil is evil. To have infinite wisdom and yet create the possibility of evil is an evil thing indeed.
It is only man's very limited and minute mind that would seek to create the argument that God should have given you and others on this planet something better than life is!!!
HOW HORRIBLY MINIMIZING of the grand scheme of things your argument truly is!!
God should have 'GAVE YOU (us) better????
Yes it is a GIMME kinda world isn't it?? Lol!
Would you have us all robots? Incapable of feeling pain or empathy or great feeling because we have LIVED with 'bad' to a point we FEEL its result? Or incapable of fully feeling the happiness of good things in life because we have good all the time to spite how we live or what we do???
I don't believe people would welcome being robots. I don't think life would be worth living that way...it DOES take some deep thought.
Your attempt at play on words distracts from the pointed issue you raise!
God does not appear to have known that Evil would come from Satan or any of the Angels He created...like I said before creating them to not be able to be destroyed was a mistake...likely because in the body of all 'goodness' even God would have a hard time believing any creation might choose EVIL over GOOD!
No way to get around the making of a mistake here which would also fall short of what some people think in their view of God...but making a mistake is NOT THE SAME as intentionally promoting EVIL!!!
The type of world you present is one I sure would not want to live in....who wants to live with little emotion due to lack of depth of life and results of one's own choices. What kind of people would we be??
The only REAL goodness comes from those who have saw true EVIL. It takes one to build the other!!
What strength of character CHOICE builds!
If we question God and Evil within our God...then we should also be questioning it within ourselves! Pointing that energy to our own lives is much more practical than trying to define God and turn the GOODNESS he gave us (THAT WE TURNED BAD) into our focus which then obviously turns to bitterness as we play the BLAME game with God...instead of looking to our own being for the strength to become GOOD...fight EVIL and live life productively.
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