God is ONE, not a trinity as per the Hebrew Bible
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Round 2 - Opening Arguments Only (No rebuttals)
Round 3 - Rebuttals Only
Round 4 - Counter-Rebuttals
Round 5 - Closing Arguments and Closing Statements
My opponent will have to prove reasonably that G-d is a trinity only by using the Hebrew Bible. The new Testament cannot be used.
Definition of Trinity - Tri-Unity - Complex Unity:
God as three consubstantial persons, expressions, or hypostases: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit; "one God in three persons"
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I would like to thank my opponent for this debate.
I will answer my opponent argument with his other argument in round 2.
"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is ONE! Deuteronomy 6:1
19. Zechariah 14:9 " And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
This is the foundation of Judaism and one of the main reason why the Jewish people refuse to bow to Jesus. G-d is one, and having three distinct person is polytheism.
But let us first look at the verse showing G-d is one and alone.
THERE IS NONE OTHER LIKE THE LORD
Then he said, "Tomorrow." So he said, "May it be according to your word, that you may know that there is no one like the LORD our God.
THERE IS NONE BESIDE HIM.
"To you it was shown that you might know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other besides Him.
"The LORD alone guided him, And there was no foreign god with him.
'See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand.
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God. I will gird you, though you have not known Me;
Do not tremble and do not be afraid; Have I not long since announced it to you and declared it? And you are My witnesses. Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'"
That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the LORD, and there is no other,
18. Joel 2:27 " And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.
THERE IS NO OTHER gods
"Know therefore today, and take it to your heart, that the LORD, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other.
"You are My witnesses," declares the LORD, "And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me.
Thus says the LORD, "The products of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush And the Sabeans, men of stature, Will come over to you and will be yours; They will walk behind you, they will come over in chains And will bow down to you; They will make supplication to you: 'Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God.'"
No other are like HIM.
"For this time I will send all My plagues on you and your servants and your people, so that you may know that there is no one like Me in all the earth.
1 Samuel 2:2
"There is no one holy like the LORD, Indeed, there is no one besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God.
"Remember the former things long past, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me,
This is clear, G-d is one, there is no other gods beside HIM, He alone deserves worship and for that really reason Jesus is a new arrival god that the Children of Israel did not know. Worshipping Jesus breaks the first commandment ( "You shall have no other gods before Me). My opponent will try to prove that One does not mean one. That one can mean more than one, but with all those verses, it is clear that G-d is alone and G-d is the only one.
I will wait for my opponent answer and will explain why Gen 1:26-27 and the like don't mean that one is a plural unity.
Another explanation could be that G-d spoke to the angels.
As per all the bible verse I put G-d is one and the Trinity is not biblical. I will wait for my opponent to provide proper proofs that god is three in one, and not ONE as Deuteronomy says.
G-d said it.
The same as Queen Victoria saying "We are not amused".
Was she more than one?
Or maybe another interesting quote from the gruffalo's child by Julia Donaldson, when the child (singluar) said to her father " What does he look like ? Tell us, Dad. Is he terribly big and terribly bad ? "
But again, if G-d is not using plural majesty, he could speak to angels who stand in His presence
"I saw the Lord seated on His throne, and all the host of heaven were standing by Him, on His right and on His left." (I Kings 22:19)
There is no reason to believe God is more than one as the verb is singular. נַֽעֲשֶׂה
And again, the Bible said "God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God HE created him; male and female HE created them."
Or if you want to keep it literal, as I said in the previous argument G-d could also be speaking to the angels and included them in the creation of men.
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Vote Placed by famousdebater 8 months ago
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