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God is One, not Trinity

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Started: 10/23/2013 Category: Religion
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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JesusIsOneGod

Pro

Trinity is not Biblical. Th doctrine of the trinity was created by a man, and canonized by the Nicene council and Catholic Church.
2-D

Con

I accept, looking forward to your arguments.
Debate Round No. 1
JesusIsOneGod

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JesusIsOneGod forfeited this round.
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Con


I’m not a theist but there is clearly a strong case for the trinity in the bible. I’ll concede that there are several scriptures that point out that God is one. There are also many where God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit appear to be distinct entities. You misunderstand the common ideas about the Trinity, which is an idea that tries to preserve the idea that God is one with three different aspects to his character.


Common examples for the trinity include water, which can take three forms: ice, steam and liquid water. They are all H2O but they take different forms and have different applications. Without the trinity there is an obvious contradiction in the Bible and an argument that God is not one.


Here a few scriptures that highlight that there is something separate and distinct about the three versions of God:



Genesis 1:26 says, “Let us make man in our image.” Ephesians 1:3 says, “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.” “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.” – John 1:1



In Matthew 3:16-17 you see all three aspects of God interacting, “16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”


This is also seen in Mark 1:10-11, “10 Just as Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. 11 And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”



There is clearly a biblical case for the Trinity.


That should do it for a forfeit.



http://www.contenderministries.org...


www.biblegateway.com


Debate Round No. 2
JesusIsOneGod

Pro

JesusIsOneGod forfeited this round.
2-D

Con

Half hearted arguments extended.
Debate Round No. 3
JesusIsOneGod

Pro

JesusIsOneGod forfeited this round.
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Con

Arguments extended.
Debate Round No. 4
JesusIsOneGod

Pro

JesusIsOneGod forfeited this round.
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Con

Arguments extended.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by fuckthisworld 3 years ago
fuckthisworld
@JesusIsOneGod, u're seriously reading the bible wrong or maybe the wrong bible. because God is the Trinity. and the Trinity is God. He is 3 in one. it is mentioned in the bible several times. and several times God refers to Himself as "us". before posting a debate pls check ur damn sources.
Posted by radz 3 years ago
radz
Unbiased historical data shows that the Trinity is believed by the church since the first century A.D. up to the Nice council in an unbroken chain of faith.
Posted by lovespellssa 3 years ago
lovespellssa
Most of the confusion regarding the number of beings composing the Godhead springs from a simple misunderstanding of the word "one." Simply put, "one" in the Bible does not always mean numerical quantity. Depending on the Scripture, "one" can often mean unity.

We see this principle established very early in Scripture. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh" (Genesis 2:24, emphasis added). "One flesh" here does not mean that a married couple melt into one human after their wedding, but rather they are to be united into one family. Jesus prayed that the apostles would be one, saying, "And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one" (John 17:22, 23).

We need to keep in mind that when Moses said, "The Lord is one," Israel was surrounded with polytheistic nations that worshiped many gods that were constantly involved in petty bickering and rivalry (Deuteronomy 6:4), whereas the God who created is composed of three separate beings who are perfectly united in their mission of saving and sustaining their creatures. As the Spirit is executing the will of both the Father and Son, it is His will also.

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one" (1 John 5:7). Granted, it is a brain exercise to grasp that one God ("He") is also, and equally, "They." Like one rope with three united strands, the three persons of the Father, Son, and Spirit make up the one God.
Posted by Redmoon 3 years ago
Redmoon
He is both and all you guys
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Vote Placed by bladerunner060 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Welp, this one was easy to score. Disappointing, really, as it's interesting to see a non-theist defend principles of theists. Conduct, obviously, for the nigh-full forfeit. S&G because Con's was good, while Pro's was 2 sentences with a typo and syntax issues--if all you've got is 2 sentences to score, they had better be good. Sourcing because Con was the only one to *do* any sourcing. Arguments because Pro laid out a case of assertions, and Con demonstrated that it was not a sufficient case by showing that "it's not biblical" was not sufficiently supported, when he could point to places in the bible that indicated at least a degree of plurality.
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Reasons for voting decision: ff