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Batmanisawesome
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RobMac
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God is not Dead (Pro=Alive Con=Dead)

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Batmanisawesome
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/10/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Batmanisawesome

Pro

1st round Challenge/acceptance

2nd round 1st case for both sides

3rd round rebuttal for both sides

4th round Closing statements and persuasive actions.
RobMac

Con

If God were at one point alive he would most certainly be dead.
I'll start by pointing out that everything that is alive must and will die. There is no evidence in our universe of immortality or everlasting life. Even if we are speaking of God as a Concept he is still not immortal. Many Different Gods have lived conceptually and Many have been lost or forgotten. So whether God is physical or conceptual, it is clear that his death is inevitable.
But, examining God as a physical being and assuming we are discussing the Christian God, it is clear that he is dead and has been for some time.
If we examine the Bible from Old Testament thru New Testament it becomes clear that God, who claims to be perfect and know all things, spends much of his time correcting his mistakes and putting mankind through trial and error type experiments. As we progress into the New Testament it also becomes clear that God gains more emotion and grows more forgiving. This all suggests god is as flawed and fragile as his creation. Also, as time passes God appears less frequently and speaks less frequently to his creation. He sends angels as messengers and his word is sent through his son. It's almost as if God has aged and is unable to be as involved as he was in the Old Testament. He stops speaking to Man, He stops sending plagues. He stops destroying cities. He seems to be unable to intervene on his own. Like an elderly man who owns a business he hands the keys over to his son and retires.
All signs point to God heading towards his own demise. Nowadays there is no sign of God being alive. Almost as if he never existed at all.
Debate Round No. 1
Batmanisawesome

Pro

Based on what you're saying, everything does that is forgotten. That'd be wrong because I surly do not forget God. Jesus is God as well, Holy Trinity. But it's not Gods fault for evil, but because the fact of that the devil Used deception to tear us from God. But God will one day destroy evil. We can't tell when that will happen because that's the end of the world. He'll make a new Eden, bringing all believers. There is a faulty statement. Those angles, the bible calls them the angles of GOD making them similar to him as he talks to us. God does still talk to us. You just have to listen carefully. That still small voice is God. That dream at night so realistic is God speaking through dreams.
RobMac

Con

You may not forget God, but you will eventually die. Everything will eventually die including the earth and the universe around it. There will be no memory of God.
As for dreams, they are the minds way of subconsciously making sense of the world around us and processing the information we absorb. No evidence suggests that's God speaks to us in our dreams.
The Holy trinity which suggests that Jesus and God are one in the same can be considered a metaphor for the bond between father and son. We can assume that God is saying that Jesus speaks for him and that whatever Jesus says or does mine as well be the word of God.
You might hear the voice of God but I do not, no matter how closely I listen. Your personal belief that you hear God is hardly and argument for his existence.

As religions fade away and peoples beliefs in those religions fade away so does the power of their gods to influence over the behavior of humanity. We may not have forgotten Zeus but we are not ruled by his influence anymore. The same thing will eventually happen to the Christian God. If he is not dead he is certainly dying. But there is no way of proving his existence. There is evidence suggesting that his story and that of Jesus is taken from past religions and stories which makes a case for his non existence.
Debate Round No. 2
Batmanisawesome

Pro

Even when the world has came to an end, God wont be forgotten, He'll be praised be praised by the ones who stay true to Jesus. They'll be the ones who stay alive, He'll destroy the ones are evil, because He'll destroy evil.
God can control everything in the universe. So he can control the mind. If the mind takes in information, then it can take in what God has in plan for us and put it into a dream.
Have you ever just sat down in a quiet place? Doing nothing, just sitting, and thinking. Then another voice comes in. Telling you to do something. Something that's right. After that, you do three things,
1.Listen and do
2. Hear, and dismiss
3.Don't hear it.

Wrong. Just wrong. Those 'gods' aren't used anymore because this, as long as people praise him he won't be "forgotten". If people do, hell send phrophets.
RobMac

Con

RobMac forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Batmanisawesome

Pro

Batmanisawesome forfeited this round.
RobMac

Con

RobMac forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Flib 2 years ago
Flib
God's not dead, he was never alive
Posted by Batmanisawesome 2 years ago
Batmanisawesome
The term I'm using is this. That when you say "God is dead" I take into meaning that God has never existed, not he somehow died.
Posted by Ben_Cofield 2 years ago
Ben_Cofield
You fail to realize actually what the phrase, "God is dead," means. It means that he is no longer necessary in the real world.
Posted by SNP1 2 years ago
SNP1
Wait, is this a debate on the EXISTENCE of god, or if god is alive or dead?
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
i bet pro will argue that, lies are life, and true dosnt matter
Posted by TBR 2 years ago
TBR
Are you looking to debate the actual question? That a god existed and has since died?
1 votes has been placed for this debate.
Vote Placed by FuzzyCatPotato 2 years ago
FuzzyCatPotato
BatmanisawesomeRobMacTied
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Reasons for voting decision: Con violated FRA and forfeited 1 more round than Pro.