God is not real
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Also God as a being performing miracles is one of the forms people have said God may assume. In essence, God is imagined as some being with powers or knowledge greater than humans and with some sort of involvement in creation of the universe or life.
Just because you personally can not imagine a God doesn't logically disprove the existence of one.
Now for my main argument, if you are into physics,you will know that simulations of the big bang have been done with variations in fundamental quantities and it has been found that if some quantities, like mass of a proton or charge of an electron were even slightly different, a universe like ours couldn't exist. This leads to the belief that there must be something beyond or above that has fixed these values at the exact values which allow life and a universe like ours to exist.
One more question which the existence of god would answer would be how did our universe start, or how was it created?
Scientific based theories that have had years of research done and evidence of evolution is much more reliable than just thinking that a floating spirit with magical powers went bam! and the world was made. The world has shown us evidence that it Has been around for much longer then 10 thousand years. With the power of science and logic I don't understand how people can still believe in something like God. I mean the only little bit of proof is the bible. But there is no proof that the bible is real. See there is always a loophole for us atheists to disprove God. I am not saying that I know there is no God but I am saying that I am not going to turn away from evidence and logic because there is a chance that God is real. There is no point wasting my life and trying to please God in everything that I do if there is no certainty of his existence. And I would like to ask some personal reflect questions or maybe answer them in your next argument.
Why does God kill innocent people for no reason?
How does God know the future if we have free will?
Why is Gods plan for some people death at birth?
How come God sounds so loving and fair when he approves slavery, doesn't think woman are important and kills people that are naturally attracted to the same sex?
How could you make this type of God your leader?
And if I do not believe in God because my parents have never taught it to me(they have) do I have to spend all of eternity in Hell?
You are saying the universe was here all along, but people try to extrapolate time to before the universe. They try to imagine and contemplate. Very few believe in the idea of universe existing from infinite years ago.
To answer to your what ifs, we don't know, but that doesn't mean you are any more right than I. It's possible there's evidence out there of planets being created by some process, but then again, people ask- who initiated that process?
Again the view of God as someone who created humans is arguable. Many theists believe in evolution. I agree the world has been around for 1000's of years, but what made it exist?
Bible isn't an argument I have used or will use at any point. If you're not saying that you know there is no God, you are agnostic and not atheist so please get your definitions clear.
Again ideas of pleasing God and karma and even heavens may not be true, but the idea of a creator may.
No one says God controls death and birth. No one says God approves slavery, opposes women or kills people naturally attracted to the same sex. Humans do that. They do it for social reasons. But how this society came into existence may have God as an answer. No one says God is a leader. Today we look to politicians and humanitarian as leaders. Not all religions believe in heaven and he'll. God isn't restricted to particular religions or beliefs about his powers and control over beings.
But the existence of a God cannot be disproved. You can have personal opinions, but the topic of this debate is that God is not real, which is an affirmative statement. This can not be proved with all certainty. The lack of existence of a creator cannot be disproved by any amount of science.
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