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Started: 4/25/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 5 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Many atheists say that God is not real! Well I am here to say that God is real and that science can't prove that he does exist. Science does the exact opposite! It proves that God is real and that he truly does live!
No one can prove that he doesn't exist because we as Catholics have proof that he surely does exist physically and spiritually.


I accept.

Round 1 - Acceptance
Round 2 - Opening Statements
Round 3 - Rebuttals

I'm looking forward to your opening statements. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 1


Ok so like I said many atheists say that God does not exist and that we Catholics have no proof when we actually do have proof. No atheist can prove that God doesn't exist because there are cases to were the Eucharist starts beating like a heart and blood runs down it too. Scientists testers the blood and a piece of the Eucharist and the blood went back to the time period of Jesus.
How can that be right? Well it's because miracles like this that happen as a sign that he does exist and other cases are very severe like a man had the wounds of Jesus appear on him suddenly out of no where and he was in agony and bleading, but that man said it is a blessing to share the pain that Jesus went through. This is proof that God does exist and it it a visual so for those people that say seeing is believing well this is proof and you can even find these miraculous events on Catholic sites.
That's my opening. Thank you.


Thank you for your opening statements. Here are my arguments against the statement that God is real.

1) Evolution
A majority of people are aware of Charles Darwin and his contributions to the theory of evolution, but here's just one example. In 1835, Darwin illustrated and described about fifteen subspecies of finches. But were they different? Yes! As a matter of fact, some had bigger heads and broad, short beaks while others had long, pointy beaks and tinier heads. [1] This is an example of natural selection.

Natural Selection - the process whereby organisms better adapted to their environment tend to survive and produce more offspring. The theory of its action was first fully expounded by Charles Darwin and is now believed to be the main process that brings about evolution. [2]

Evolution - the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth. [3]

This wouldn't be possible with Adam and Eve, because according to The Bible, the world is just 6,000 years old when it really takes over 1,000,000 years to evolve. [4]

2) Fossils
Like I said above, The Bible dates the Earth to be only 6,000 years old. But then why do we have fossils? Fossils take a minimum of 10,000 years to form and the oldest fossil dates back to 3.5 billion years ago. [5, 6] If God were to create the Earth 6,000 years ago we definitely wouldn't have fossils.

3) God is "Good"
According to The Bible, God is good, no questions asked.

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)

Oh give thanks to the LORD, for He is good; for His lovingkindness is everlasting. (Psalms 107:1)

God reigns over all of mankind with love and kindness in his heart, right? Here are some more Bible passages that might suggest otherwise.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

Do not allow a sorceress to live. (Exodus 22:18)

Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.
(Ephesians 5:22)

This following passage indicates that God created everything and everyone.

For we are God's masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago. ( Ephesians 2:10)

Why would God create the LGBT, witches, and women if He would condemn them and treat them unfairly?

And relating to this issue, why did God create world disasters, harmful diseases, and terrible criminals? If He watches over all of us then why doesn't he stop these things from happening? God doesn't stop any of these events because he doesn't exist.

4) We Can't Reasonably Prove God's Existence

Despite all of this, can we prove His existence? Let's look at the steps of experimental method.

1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation. [7]

Observe - to see, watch, perceive, or notice [8]

We can't see God. If we could then we'd actually be able to prove that God exists. That makes Step 1 lose weight right away which makes it impossible to prove that God exists, though we can observe the reasons against a God of any kind existing.

In conclusion, for the reasons above, God can't reasonably, logically, or scientifically be proven to exist at any time. Thank you. Peace.


Debate Round No. 2


Jake.Rosiles forfeited this round.


My argument extends. Peace.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by whiteflame 5 months ago
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Posted by lwittman 5 months ago
Charles Darwin himself said that his theory of evolution was flawed.
Posted by missmedic 6 months ago
In a very real and important sense, it is possible to say that, scientifically, God does not exist " just as science is able to discount the existence of a myriad of other alleged beings.
To understand why "God does not exist" can be a legitimate scientific statement, it's important to understand what the statement means in the context of science. When a scientist says "God does not exist," they mean something similar to when they say "aether does not exist," "psychic powers do not exist," or "life does not exist on the moon.".................All such statements are casual short-hand for a more elaborate and technical statement:.......... "this alleged entity has no place in any scientific equations, plays no role in any scientific explanations, cannot be used to predict any events, does not describe any thing or force that has yet been detected, and there are no models of the universe in which its presence is either required, productive, or useful."
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