God to be proven real.
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And if thequaran was created by God was the catholic, christian, and islamic bible created by God as well? They seem to bump heads all the time...im not going against you or advocating for you by the way i kinda had to chose in orde to post
1. The Kalam Cosmological argument, everything that begins to exist has a cause, the universe began to exist therefore it has a cause
some people try to use quantum fluctuations to suggest that something can come without a cause, but quantum fluctuations are probably coming from something rather than nothing, for instance my hand isn't empty it is full of air, the quantum vacuum isn't empty either, it is full of energy, zero point energy
Also quantum fluctuations are created in matter and antimatter pairs, where is the antimatter?
2. The transcendental argument, the laws of logic exist, (the law of identity, the law of non contradiction, and the law of excluded middle), these laws are immaterial and universal, atheism can't account for them, but theism can, because the universe reflects the mind of God, therefore God exists.
3. Quantum entanglement, the particles that make up the universe are interconnected, they are therefore one since , and that one unified force is God
4. Shaolin monks and chi, spears won't go through the shoulin monk's throat, even soft parts of their body are immune, they use chi to do this, there is an invisible energy field around us which we can use, that is God
5. Double slit experiment, particles only exist as particles when they are observed, therefore there has to be a universal mind, and that is God
6. UFOs, they exist, according to John Keel and others they are the work of Satan, if the devil exists then God exists the best of these is the tinley park lights skip to 39 on the video and you will be convinced ufos exist
7. The Holy Quran, it talks about the Big Bang and black holes, how did an unlettered person of the desert come up with these ideas?
8. The Promised Messiah, He predicted the death of lekram, he was killed by the angel of death, people witnessed the angel of death come into the house of lekram kill him by stabbing him in the belly and then disappear, therefore it couldn't be a man it had to be the angel of death, therefore God exists
source- Ahmad the guided one
the Promised Messiah also predicted the death of John Alexander Dowie, when Dowie was younger than him and lived in a better country, the Promised Messiah won the prayer duel
9. Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad ra, He escaped Pakistan and was confused with Hazrat Mirza Nasir Ahmad ra, and his enemy, Zaolhuck's plane blew up mysteriously, Who is behind all these things God,
10. Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, he was prophesied in a poem of the Promised Messiah may peace be upon him, who told the Promised Messiah as about him, it Was God
11. Biogenesis, we have yet to create a single cell or even a single speck of life, therefore nature couldn't have done it, something superior to us and nature must have done it and He is God.
all these reasons prove God exists.
RedLycan forfeited this round.
I would like to take this time to clarify some points.
My God isn't the Christian god, or the Muslim god, or the Greek god, my God is infinite energy.
We are all made up of energy so we know that it exists, now the question is that is this energy intelligent or can we use this energy to control things.
I have already proven that this is the case because this energy chose to create us therefore it has a Will, and is intelligent.
We can also interact with this energy and do impossible things as the Shaolin monks have demonstrated for years, and as I have already proven.
This energy also controls the universe objectively without compassion, and therefore there is no problem of evil.
This energy is not omnibenevolent, it doesn't care about us anymore than we care about ants.
We are made up of cells, our cells die, but we don't care about each individual cell, we care about the whole.
The same with this energy, it does not care about every single human being on this tiny dust of a planet, it cares about the universe as a whole because we are a part of this energy and the energy is the whole.
This energy has also been called Chi which the shaolin monks use, but I call it God, because it is the supreme force of the universe, it is similar to the force in star wars
If Con wishes to continue this debate, he must disprove all the arguments I posted on my last argument, and all the evidence I provided, he must watch all the videos, and read all the links, and address every argument whether he agrees with it or not.
I hope Con finds the courage to do that, if not may all praise belong to God who created us and is alone eternal, amen
RedLycan forfeited this round.
My arguments were basically that God is Energy, and I have proven the case with supernatural experiences experienced by Prophet Muhammad may peace and blessings of God be upon him and of the Promised Messiah and his Khalifas, may peace be upon the all,
and I also used the cutting edge of quantum physics called quantum entanglement to prove that the universe is an illusion and that we are all one energy or one God.
I also used the double slit experiment to prove that consciousness is all that exists, and that the material world is an illusion created by consciousness/God
and I have used Shaolin Monks and how they use chi energy to do impossible things to prove that God exists, because God is the chi energy that Shaolin Monks use,
So in conclusion God does exist, because Con was unable to even touch a single point I made, amen
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Vote Placed by IslamAhmadiyya 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con pretty much FF'd the entire debate, Tahir was the only one making arguments, and I agree with the things he wrote. Pro won this debate.
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