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"23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus."
We are condemned because we have failed to keep God's law. We are saved and receive a change of heart by accepting Jesus and that makes us Christians
V. 25 -26
"25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus."
"8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God."
Now you must realize that the purpose of prayer is so that God's power can work in your life. God brings suffering into your life so that you can see his glory. I illustrate with an example :
"Now as Jesus passed by, He saw a man who was blind from birth. 2 And His disciples asked Him, saying, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
3 Jesus answered, "Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him."
By the power of Jesus Christ, we are relieved of our suffering because their purpose is so that he can work in our lives.
1 Peter 3:12
"12 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous,
And His ears are open to their prayers;
But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil."
Jesus also said that we would suffer, but he gave us the power to endure.
"33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world."
Try praying that Jesus would change your life and invite him to be your lord and savior.
2nd. Your argument is that the bible doesn't say anything about prosperity.. however your wrong!
"For I know the ans I have for you." Declares the Lord. "Plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
Commit to the Lord whatever you do, and your plans will succeed.
So do not fear, for I am with you, do not be dismayed for I am your God. I will Strengthen you and help you I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.
But remember the Lord your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth. And so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your forefathers as it is today.
And last but not least.
Therefore I tell you, what ever you ask for in prayer, and believe that you've received, and it will be yours.
See so many promises made. To help us to prosper us to hold us up and also to carry us when we are down. And yet nothing good came of being Christian.
Believe me I did it all. I believed with my entire being. I did everything the bible said. Every piece of advice I was given. All of it.
I prayed one prayer for over a decade. And still nothing. What I'm saying is that God is sitting up there with yes and no stamps and every time some one prays he chooses. Its all up to god. So if we suffer its because he has chosen not to help.
So how can I believe in a god like that. A god who doesn't keep his word to lift you up, to help, to prosper you. Because he's not real.
Anyone can try to build a relationship with him. I've been there. But it doesn't mean its real.
"10 For thus says the Lord: After seventy years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform My good word toward you, and cause you to return to this place. 11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. 12 Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. 13 And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. 14 I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will bring you back from your captivity; I will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring you to the place from which I cause you to be carried away captive."
While yes it is true that God has plans to prosper us, we still must suffer before we experience his ultimate plan.
The Proverbs aren't absolute, they are general statements of how things are, but they don't always apply. For example, Prov. 16:7 "When people's lives please the LORD, even their enemies are at peace with them." This doesn't always apply to every situation.
The Bible also says that we are to pray according to his will 1 John 5:14
"And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us."
There's a difference between believing in what the Bible says and trusting in God to fulfill what he says.
I simply want you to ask yourself a few questions:
1) Have you trusted God with your life?
2) Have you confessed your sins to God and swore to never do them again?
3) Do you believe that he died for your sins and rose again on the 3rd day?
4) Have you given your life to Jesus by faith and not by works?
If the answer is no then you need to do it whenever you are ready. I hope what i said helps. If it didn't, PM me and we can talk about it more.
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Vote Placed by ShadowKingStudios 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: SEE RFD. The Jeremiah 29:11 verse isn't about prosperity aka personal wealth. The Hebrew word erroneously translated prosperity is "shalom" and means peace, welfare, completeness. My point is: flawed translations of the Scriptures & misinterpretations of them are the leading cause for why people reject the Bible & why Christians become Atheists. Christianity has deceived the world. The Bible is an Israelite book, written primarily for Israelites & their descendents & converted Gentiles--not for the world. The disciples asked Jesus why does he speak to them in parables; he said "Because to you it has been given to know and understand the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven but to the world it has not." This single verse should make all so-called Christian "intellectual thinkers" wake up & acknowledge that Biblical topics are only for Israelites & converts, and its laws don't apply to anyone else UNTIL Jesus returns ON--the day of Salvation.
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