Debate Rounds (3)
1. Look closely at any tree.
2. Trees are called trees, because they are the Holy "Tree"-nity.
3. Trees are not eternal, omniscient, etc.
4. God is not eternal, omniscient, etc.
5. There is no Christian God.
1. The Bible is incorrect - so God is not infallible - so there is no God
The bible is incorrect, yes and by saying that God wrote the bible is wrong. The bible is the stories of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The old testament focuses more on parables and short moral lessons. The bible isn't the work of God, it is the work of man. Also the bible was written thousands of years ago, so it is expected to have changed a little. This is not saying the bible has no truth in it, but rather partial or half. Like when God split the sea, so Moses could lead his people to safety from the army pursuing them. Then when they were crossing, God drowned them. Guess what they are finding now? Chariot wheels and skeletons.
2. If God does exist, why is there evil?
God did not create evil, it is the absence of good. People let evil seep into their lives when they are mad or upset. God could destroy evil with a snap of his fingers. He's letting there be evil in the world as a test. You can't be going to heaven or hell without being tested. And you can't expect a young boy that just lost a parent to not be mad at the world or God. If he keeps his faith strong then he will emerge stronger. This is why some of the most devoted Atheists were once Christians. I know what it means to be broken down, in the past year I have lost a great-uncle, my friend's mom has breast cancer, my dad and grandmother have been at odds for over a year, my step-dad works hours away, it is my second year at a new school, had a 3 month premature sister, and to top it off I'm Asian with the last name Rice. Through all of this I have not been close to God, but I believe he has been helping me. Also, the most devoted priests or holy men lost a loved one and found God. God keeps evil because he hopes to one day eradicate it.
3. Pascal's Wager
The idea that believing in God is a safe bet and you have nothing to lose. This is not true, because God knows all and if that is your only reason for worshipping you're not a devoted Christian. I know plenty of "faker Christians", and I don't like them. This is the wrong reason for believing. Also he doesn't indicate what religion to believe in. Why not believe in all of them? Then you won't go to any of their heavens, or paradises, or Valhalla.
4. What if another religion is right?
This one is just plain faith. I have researched for hours about various religions, because I have parents that believe I should choose. I chose Christianity. So, what if? Well, I guess that's too bad for me. I respect other religions, my grandparents are Buddhist, but I don't tell them they are wrong. You know why? Because I DON'T KNOW. If I was a Sunday School Teacher, I would teach the gospel of I'M NOT SURE. Because I'm not. I'm not going to pretend I have all the answer when I don't. NO ONE DOES. Hey Atheists out there, who created the universe? You're probably going to say the Big Bang did. Who made the Big Bang happen? we've already established that it's not gravity. So, what? It all comes to one answer... God
5. God is simple
People say Christians believe in God because it's easy. No, there's tons of things to believe in. If anything Atheism is the easy answer. It has all the facts and numbers. When has anything ever been easy? Believing in God is hard, rather than easy. How hard do you think this is? A 12 year old arguing a educated adult. I'm making a fool of myself in front of other people. I've been researching for hours, and I'm probably still going to lose, but I'm going to lose doing what I believe in.
6. Indulgences and purgatory
I don't like what the Catholic Church did either, but that is behind us now. I don't think they did what was right, even though they were supposedly justified by God.
7. God is not necessary
People say God is not necessary, because we have science to explain things we thought were made by God. Things like crop failures, thunderstorms, droughts, etc. If you say that God is not necessary, then we are not necessary. Why be here if there is no God. God may not be necessary, but I think he influence our everyday lives. He could kill anyone instantly, but he doesn't. Think of all the good he inspires... Is that necessary? Feeding the homeless, offering shelter in his churches, giving His word to all.
8. God is irrational
Science explains all...no. It doesn't. How could something be so perfectly designed that it could inhabit this Earth? Who designed my brain, our human figure, flowers, even a blade of grass? God. You can say that we adapt, but that takes millions of years. If the universe's age was represented in a day (24 hour period), most of life was created in a 90 minute span.
9. Cosmological Argument
Every finite and contingent being has a cause. Even the universe is finite and contingent. So it has a purpose...what? That's where we and God come in. To say there's no God is to say there is no purpose for anything.
It is an hour and 15 minutes past my bedtime and although it is a weekend, I need to go to bed. I rest my case and hope I win, but I wish the best of luck to my opponent reasonablereason. Again, sorry for not understanding you, I just need to be a little more familiar with what you mean.
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Vote Placed by dsjpk5 2 years ago
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