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Maddy
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halcyon
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Going out is all about making an effort, about suiting the clothes to the activity.

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Started: 12/12/2007 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Maddy

Pro

People dress down too much these days. I go to the opera and see adults wearing jeans. I go to a wedding and see one of the bridesmaids wearing Crocs. I go to one of those super fancy, reservations-only restaurants and see a guy wearing a t-shirt and cut-off shorts looking like he just wandered away from his weekend warrior work into this restaurant.

Is the dressing-down of America a good thing? Why do stores carry those beautiful dresses and tuxedos if the only place where people dress up these days is at weddings (and even then, that is not guaranteed)? Do people dressed-down in traditionally dressed-up places need to be asked to leave, or is it us dressed-up people who are inappropriately dressed?
halcyon

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My question is, quite frankly, why "dressing up" is considered a good thing. What benefit does it confer, other than acting as a status symbol? In same cases, it seems almost counter productive. As you said, there are stores full of dresses and tuxes, that people only wear at weddings. But let us consider this more closely.

The bride and groom, especially, are supposed to dress up more than anyone else. The bride in a wedding will typically wear a dress costing hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Why? Because she is supposed to. This clothing does not allow for some special function. You're not only capable of getting married in a horrifyingly expensive dress. At a time when two people are going through a lot of stress, and entering a new time in their life, we expect them to throw a giant party, and then to spend ridiculous amounts of money on clothing, when that money could be much better spent on something else that they could probably use a lot more. A down payment on a house or a car, some new furniture, something.

And the same is true in lots of other situations. Wearing expensive clothing is just a status symbol, and looked at rationally it is a waste of resources that could be better spent. Additionally, when viewed from the status symbol angle, these clothing arguments become a sort of de facto argument for aristocratic symbols. After all, if one must be wearing a full tux with tails to see an opera, you have effectively priced a large number of people out of doing so.
Debate Round No. 1
Maddy

Pro

You don't have to spend thousands of dollars to make an effort. Thrift stores sell nice clothes; there's even stores that sell secondhand wedding dresses and bridesmaid dresses for a fraction of the original cost.

And you ask, why should any of of make an effort? I view it as a sign of respect. If I'm going to the opera or ballet or theater, I know that the people putting on the production have put a lot of work into making a great show for myself and others to come watch. If I'm eating at a restaurant where I had to have reservations for several months to get a table, that's a very special thing and I'm going to treat it as such.
halcyon

Con

But why should we spend thousands, or even hundreds, of dollars? You have yet to demonstrate a rational reason to do any such thing.

Are special things less special if you're wearing different clothing? Is the birth of your first child more special if you show up to the hospital in a tuxedo or evening gown? Is the death of a loved one somehow more poignant if you're dressed for the occassion? Are you less married if you do so in jeans? Of course not.
Debate Round No. 2
Maddy

Pro

I reiterate: I never said that we have to spend thousands, or even hundreds of dollars. Making an effort is not about breaking the bank, it's just that: Making an effort, honoring the occasion, using what you have to dress up for the occasion.

If you're wearing the same clothes that you always do, it will take away the special-ness of the occasion for most people. If a person is going to a wedding or funeral, he or she should dress according to the family's wishes, or if no direction is given, dress in clothes that are traditionally suitable for such an occasion. Dressing up is one part of showing respect for people or an event. Yes, there are people who get married in jeans, but they are far outnumbered by people who wear the fancy dress and tuxedo. You will be hard-pressed to find a little girl who does not dream of her princess dress and fantastic wedding.
halcyon

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halcyon forfeited this round.
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