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PiercedPanda
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DiamondDes
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Graffiti is art

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PiercedPanda
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/21/2014 Category: Arts
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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PiercedPanda

Pro

In this debate, we will discuss whether graffiti is art or not. My opponent will be going against me, and in favour of graffiti not being an art. First round is acceptance. Please don't troll.
DiamondDes

Con

Graffiti is not art! Some of it may be, but that is only the paintings and murals. Graffiti is what you see on the streets with gang names and code words for doing drugs or to say threats. Most drug dealers study graffiti to be able to figure out the code and where people are selling drugs based on their graffiti. Art and graffiti are two different things. Art is murals and paintings and sculptures. graffiti is gang signs and writing on walls or property in an area that it is not allowed in which is also called vandalism also graffiti is street art, that is illegal. Your turn Pro.
Debate Round No. 1
PiercedPanda

Pro

I thank con for accepting this debate. I also would I like to mention that 1st round was acceptance, so now this debate is somewhat unfair since you have more rounds to debate. Nevertheless, I continue.

REBUTTALS:
"Graffiti is not art! Some of it may be, but that is only the paintings and murals. "

In this argument you just admitted that graffiti is an art.

"Graffiti is what you see on the streets with gang names and code words for doing drugs or to say threats. "

Graffiti is seen in many ways. Gangs use graffiti to mark their territory, and drug dealers do the same. However graffiti is not only done by these people, but a variety of individuals who put things on the walls. Graffiti does not always demonstrate evil things.

"Most drug dealers study graffiti to be able to figure out the code and where people are selling drugs based on their graffiti."

As you can see, they study to understand codes, according to what you said. There is in art in that, correct me if I'm wrong.

" Art is murals and paintings and sculptures. "

Art is seen in many ways. Everything can be art in it's own way. However if you are explaining what is technically art, you are incorrect. You neglect a variety of arts including dance, theatre, music etc.

ARGUMENTS:

Before anything, we need to understand the 3 basic things we need to know for this debate: art, graffiti and vandalism.

Definitions:

Art: " the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination" [1]

Graffiti: "writing or drawings scribbled, scratched, or sprayed illicitly on a wall or other surface in a public place" [2]

Vandalism: "the wanton or deliberate destruction caused by a vandal or an instance of such destruction" [3]

So art is an expression or application involving creativity and skill, something that graffiti uses both of. Graffiti is written in public places in a variety of crazy spots. Take these for example: [4] This forum shows a variety of graffiti in crazy places, which happens very often. It takes hard work to do that, or in other words: skill. Graffiti also involves creativity, some graffiti is amazing. [5] These pictures involve creativity, and explains how graffiti artist chose to change their surroundings to their imagination, or in other words art.

So the big question now is " How is vandalism art?". Well that's the thing, Vandalism includes graffiti, that doesn't mean all graffiti is vandalism. If a man draws graffiti styled art (keep in mind that graffiti is literally called "graffiti art") then it is no longer vandalism, yet still graffiti.

Graffiti is an art, and an amazing one at that.

Your turn con! :D

sources:
1:http://www.oxforddictionaries.com...
2:http://www.oxforddictionaries.com...
3:http://www.thefreedictionary.com...
4:http://www.bombingscience.com...
5:http://thechive.com...
DiamondDes

Con

DiamondDes forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
PiercedPanda

Pro

Arguments extended.
DiamondDes

Con

DiamondDes forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
PiercedPanda

Pro

Extended.
DiamondDes

Con

DiamondDes forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
DiamondDes

Con

DiamondDes forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by missymaymaddie 2 years ago
missymaymaddie
I definitely think graffiti is art.
Posted by PiercedPanda 2 years ago
PiercedPanda
I am aware of such @FathomTheDeep
Posted by FathomTheDeep 2 years ago
FathomTheDeep
Isn't the definition of the word "art" perhaps the most vague of all the words in the english language? Without a definition both sides will be roaming around a massive grey area.
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Vote Placed by Krazzy_Player 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro one hands down. He had superior arguments, backed up by reliable sources. He also had much better grammar! And let's not forget the forfeit by con, giving points to pro for conduct.
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Reasons for voting decision: con loses conduct for arguing in R1 and forfeiting. Pro elected not to add arguments in the rounds con forfeited, so the debate just ended early. There was agreement that graffiti is sometimes art, so we have to figure out whether the resolution was "Graffiti is [always] art." or "Graffiti is [sometimes] art." Pro had the responsibility of writing a clear resolution. Con's interpretation of the resolution is reasonable, because it parallels common usage like, "Music is art." If Pro had made it clear that he mean "sometimes art" he probably couldn't have gotten acceptance. So arguments go to Con. Con didn't rebut, but I think by definition graffiti is always vandalism, in that it is done without permission of the owner of the space. However, that doesn't bear upon whether it is art or not. A lovely artistic mural could be painted without permission.