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Guardcats

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Started: 6/26/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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LogicalLunatic

Pro

Guardcat: a domesticated cat which is used for guarding things, usually property.

First Round is for acceptance. Burden of proof is on Pro to show that using Guardcats is a good idea; burden of proof is also upon Con to Prove that using Guardcats is not a good idea. In other words, burden of proof is shared. Do not accept this debate if you do not feel that you can continue without forfeiting for the entirety of these four Rounds.
No cursing, no sexually suggestive language, and no violent threats, please. Trolling is permitted.
Sukati

Con

I accept. I will be arguing against guard cats.
Debate Round No. 1
LogicalLunatic

Pro

When it comes to guarding property, dogs usually have the advantages of size and intimidation. That's why most people choose dogs over cats to protect their property.
However, cats have some advantages which dogs don't, as I will show.

1. Cats are nocturnal.
Proof: http://www.animalhumanesociety.org...
Burglars rarely try to break into someone's house in the middle of the day. Rather, they usually conduct their business at night. Therefore, when a burglar breaks into your house, your cat will be awake.
Domestic breeds of dogs, on the other hand, are not nocturnal.
Proof:https://answers.yahoo.com...
Therefore, when a burglar breaks into your house at night, your dog will likely be asleep.
Therefore, cats are better than dogs at being awake and alert when burglars enter your house at night.

2. Dogs are not always larger than cats. Among cats there is the Maine Coon, which is quite large.
Proof: http://pictures-of-cats.org...
Meanwhile, when it comes to dogs there are breeds like the Chihuahua, or the Poodle. These breeds of dog are not very large; surely a Maine Coon is bigger than a Chihuahua.

3. Dogs can and have been bribed by burglars.
Proof:http://www.experts123.com...
So even if your dog is awoken, if the burglar offers it food then it will likely stop barking.
I haven't heard of a cat being bribed, though I may be wrong.

4. Cats can and have protected their owners from harm on multiple occasions.
http://www.people.com...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
Also, many people have Ailurophobia, which is fear of cats.
http://www.healthguideinfo.com...
Now, wouldn't YOU be creeper out by a set of glistening eyes watching you from a dark corner?

Now, I am not saying that guardcats should replace guard dogs. HOWEVER, possessing cats as well as dogs will minimize the risk of burglary.
Sukati

Con

In this debate, I will be arguing that guardtrolls are better than guardcats at home defense.

Let's define what I mean by troll:


While Pro's arguments are valid, they don't offer proof that they would successfully guard one's house.

R1: "Cats are nocturnal."

While this may be true, this does not offer evidence that they would guard one's house successfully. All this proves is that they can see in the dark.


R2: "Cats can and have protected their owners from harm on multiple occasions."

While I do not deny that cats have protected their owners from harm, they do not offer proof that they would be good at guarding property.

R3: "Also, many people have Ailurophobia, which is fear of cats."

This only represents a portion of people.

C1: Guardcats would be terrible at home defense.

If someone breaks into the home, the cat will either not care, meow, or hiss. This would not wake the owners up, and if it did, they would think the cat is just meowing (if that's a word), or just doing its cat things.

If the cat was a problem for the robber, the robber could easily kill it with his weapon of choice (baseball bat, knife, shovel, hands, etc) thus eliminating the cat from the picture.

C2: Trolls are scarier than cats.

If you were a robber, would you want to see this in the house you are robbing:



Or this?


A troll would scare robbers off at first glance! Even if the robber wasn't scared, the troll would bash the robbers head in with his huge mace/ club. His grunting noise when he swings his club and the loud thud of the robbers brains splattering over the place would wake up the owners of the house (if they are home at the time.) Once the owners are up, they can call the police and report that a robber has broken into their house, and they need a wall cleaner asap.

C2: Trolls are stronger than cats.

Trolls can carry and swing clubs:

Cats can only scratch at best.

C3: Trolls smell bad.

If you were a robber, the last house you would want to rob is a house with a guardtroll. Not only with the troll mash you when you enter, the troll would smell terrible: http://aqwwiki.wikidot.com...

It is very difficult for people to do their job when there is a terrible smell, because it is very distracting. Of course, a robbers "job" would be to rob the house of all of its items that are of value. Doing this would become much more difficult with the musty stench of a troll.

In conclusion, guardcats are ineffective and inefficient. Cats can only scratch at best, and are too easy for robbers to get rid of. Cats are quiet, so they won't wake up the owners to warn them, and cats just don't care! (Source: http://io9.com...) Trolls on the other hand are scary, dangerous, strong, loud, and release a stench strong enough to make robbers puke before even entering the house they are about to rob.


Debate Round No. 2
LogicalLunatic

Pro

LogicalLunatic forfeited this round.
Sukati

Con

Unfortunately, Pro has forfeited round 3. Hopefully he/she will return for the final round. I extend my arguments.
Debate Round No. 3
LogicalLunatic

Pro

First of all, trolls cannot usually fit inside someone's home. They have to stay outside. Second, they are not nocturnal. Cats can serve as interior security at night.
Also, did you not see the link to the story of the cat fighting off an alligator? If a domestic cat can do this, then surely it can fight off a burglar. Especially if it's a Maine Coon.
You said that only a few people are afraid of cats but did you know that Hitler was afraid of cats? That would seem to suggest that evil people (burglars, for instance) are afraid of cats.

I await my opponent's response.

P.S. I apologize for forfeiting the last round. Due to circumstances outside of my control I didn't have internet access Friday to Sunday.
Sukati

Con

"First of all, trolls cannot usually fit inside someone's home. They have to stay outside."

You did not provide any evidence to back up your claim. My video of Harry Potter clearly shows a troll inside a building.


"Second, they are not nocturnal."

They don't have to be. Their smell would fend the robber off before they even entered the house.

"Cats can serve as interior security at night."

They can see in the dark, but they can't do anything to protect from burglars.

"Also, did you not see the link to the story of the cat fighting off an alligator? If a domestic cat can do this, then surely it can fight off a burglar. Especially if it's a Maine Coon."

For everyone reading the debate, watch the video of the cat "fighting" the alligator. The cat merely scares it away. The alligator just didn't want to waste its time. If the alligator wanted, it could have eaten that kitten right up.

A robber would more likely run away from a troll then a measly kitten.

"You said that only a few people are afraid of cats but did you know that Hitler was afraid of cats? That would seem to suggest that evil people (burglars, for instance) are afraid of cats."

That is a Texas sharpshooter fallacy. Just because Hitler does not like cats does not make all bad people afraid of cats.

Check this guy out:

He is a terrible person who is racist against small blue people. He likes cats. Therefore, not all bad people are afraid of cats.

Pro has failed to show that cats would make good guards. Cats are small, weak, and easy for robbers to get out of the way. Trolls on the other hand, make very good guards. Robbers would have to fight through the awful stench of the troll, whilst trying to avoid getting their skull mashed in by a huge troll club.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Malacoda 2 years ago
Malacoda
You would lose. I'm sure they taste wonderful.
Posted by TheYummyCod 2 years ago
TheYummyCod
If I accepted this debate, my premise would be:

"Guardcats do not taste very good."
1 votes has been placed for this debate.
Vote Placed by ChosenWolff 2 years ago
ChosenWolff
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Reasons for voting decision: Guardtrolls are by far the better option, considering Pro made no actual arguments or rebuttals.