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chazzerz17
Pro (for)
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kkkkatie126
Con (against)

Gun Control

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/2/2016 Category: Society
Updated: 1 month ago Status: Debating Period
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chazzerz17

Pro

Guns legally owned help reduce crimes from taking place and make our communities safer. If you were to disarm every single American, the only people with guns would be criminals since criminals break the law by their very nature. If someone were to open fire where there is a large group of people with no ways to protect themselves, there would be a massacre when the police would get there. This is called a gun free zone. The worst is when people advocate for gun free schools because the first line of defense would be a legally armed teacher who would protect the students. Maybe school massacres wouldn't happen if the perpetrator was shot because he could kill class after class. Look at Chicago, home of gun restriction in America. There has been THOUSANDS of shootings this year, and hundreds have lost their lives. Gun control is bad for our country and gets innocent people killed every year.
kkkkatie126

Con

You lack sources in your argument(links, quotes, etc.). The more people with guns equals a greater chance for suicides, and self harming. We can't let just any one own a gun, for example, what happens if a psychopath gets a hold of a gun ? Said psychopath is likely to flip out and shoot people who live in approxamity to him or her. You said it yourself. Thousands of people are losing their lives in Chicago each day due to gun violence. Now if we were to have stricter laws and regulations on guns, then we might be able to make it harder for criminals to buy guns. And, if we require background checks for gun purchases, then we'll be able to see who's a felon, or a rapist, or a psychopath, or someone who was arrested for weapon related crimes in the past, etc. Of course we just can't go breaking down doors and taking guns from people, we just need to have stricter gun purchasing laws and require background checks for all citizens who want to purchase a gun.
Debate Round No. 1
chazzerz17

Pro

I have to say that you yourself lacked evidence yet you criticized me not having any quotes. So I will change that.
#1. We have a background check. I'll type it slowly, back-ground check! In order for anyone to actually buy a gun they have to get a background check to see if they have criminal records. Nothing new here. Besides, you mention Chicago, the murder capital of the U.S. You must know that Chicago has the strictest gun control laws in the country yet over Chicago has had over 650 murders this year alone! Look it up.
http://heyjackass.com...
If you restrict the gun laws to make it would be very difficult for anyone to get a gun, do you know who will follow those laws? Answer - the law abiding citizens. So know it is very difficult for a "good guy" to get a gun so now the criminals have guns because criminals break the laws and now law abiding citizens can't defend themselves.

You mentioned gun-related suicides as well. Here is an article on how many people commit suicide.
https://afsp.org...
So the article says in 2014 the suicide per capita was ~13 per 100,000 people, yet the gun per capita data in the U.S. does not go hand in hand. In the United States there are approximately 88 guns per 100 people or 270 million guns total. So the suicide rate compared to guns in the U.S. is very low. Let's look at South Korea and their suicide rate just as another example. This is a bit older from the Washington Post.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
South Korea nearly has 25 suicides per 100,000 people, about double that of the U.S. So South Korea must just have guns spilling out onto the streets. Right? Wrong. According to another article from the Washington post, South Korea has 1.1 guns per 100 people. So that means that the United States has 88x the amount of guns per capita than in South Korea, yet their suicide rate is double the United States. It's a myth, and here is the article to prove that.
http://www.washingtonpost.com...
Oh, and here is one from Duke with sources and everything proving what I have just spoke about. https://people.duke.edu...
So you see, I have proven that gun control is just myths, no matter what people want to say: people get background checks to get a gun, number of guns in this country to not stimulate the suicide rate, and gun control just doesn't work.
kkkkatie126

Con

Okay, you did make good arguments, but here are some undeniable facts(supported with sources).

A study published in the American Journal of Public Health found that 'Legal purchase of a handgun appears to be associated with a long lasting increased risk of violent death'. Here's the source where I found this piece of information: David Frum, "Are Gun Accidents 'Very Rare'?," www.thedailybeast.com, Feb. 20, 2013

According to a March 10th, 2016 Lancet study, implementing federal universal background checks could reduce firearm deaths by a projected 56.9%. P. Cummings, T.D. Koepsell, D.C. Grossman, J. Savarino, and R.S. Thompson, "The Association between the Purchase of a Handgun and Homicide or Suicide," American Journal of Public Health, June 1997

Of the 29,618,300 violent crimes committed between 2007 and 2011, 0.79% of victims(235,700) protected themselves with a threat of use or use of a firearm, the least employed protective behavior. Michael Planty and Jennifer L. Truman, "Firearm Violence, 1993-2011," www.bjs.gov, May 2013

A June 2013 Institute of Medicine report states that 'almost all guns used in criminal acts enter circulation via initial legal transaction'. That means that legally owned guns are frequently stolen and used by criminals. Institute of Medicine, "Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence," www.iom.edu, June 5, 2013

So these are the arguments I've just presented: More gun control laws would reduce gun deaths, guns are rarely used in self defense, and legally owned guns are frequently stolen and used by criminals.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by csdspartans7 1 month ago
csdspartans7
People keep arguing weather or not you have the right to own a gun but do you have the right to confiscate a gun from someone? Just because you think the world is better without them does not mean you have the right to ban other people from using them.
Posted by FanboyMctroll 1 month ago
FanboyMctroll
The gun industry is a 33 BILLION dollar industry in the USA, the government collects 6 billion dollars in tax revenue from guns, you will never in your life time eliminate the guns in the USA. The NRA has all of congress wrapped up and bribed and no legislation will ever come out regulating or getting rid of any guns. Plus with the amendment in the constitution all gun lobbyists will always use that as an excuse to never have any type of gun control.

Now I do not live in the USA, being Canadian this gun issue is one of the major reasons why I have not moved to this great country. The money will always run the world, and unfortunately for all the victims of gun violence and empty promises of American Presidents about regulating the gun control nothing will ever change. The shooting will continue in malls and suburbs and we will continue to see more victims because there are 33 billion reasons not to change it
Posted by Some_Confused_Kid 1 month ago
Some_Confused_Kid
You obviously haven't heard of the black market.
Posted by TheBenC 1 month ago
TheBenC
Owning a gun is an inalienable right. You cannot "allow" someone to exercise their rights.
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