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DaejahBlue
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Gun law Regulations

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Started: 4/12/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 10 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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DaejahBlue

Con

Strict laws shouldn't be inforced to restrict people from their second amendment right to bare arms in protection. Prohibition didn"t stop alcohol" gun control won"t stop guns. The people who prospered during Prohibition by importing and supplying alcohol were gangsters like Al Capone. If gun control were in place, the people we"d really have to worry about would be the modern-day Al Capone supplying guns. People will do what they can in order to get what they want.
hnicole

Pro

Gun control is definitely needed in today"s society. The regulation of guns is an extremely necessary action that needs to be taken in order to save lives. Gun control is basically the effort to stop the rise in violent and fatal crimes by strengthening laws on the ownership of firearms (guns). These laws would reduce gun deaths being that guns are the leading cause of death by homicide, suicide, and unintentional deaths.
Gun control laws are needed to protect women from domestic abusers and stalkers. It is said that five women are murdered with guns every day in the United States a women's risk for being murdered increases by 500% if a gun is present during a dispute. Gun control can also lead to fewer suicides being that there were 270,237 gun suicides in the US for about 52% of all suicides. A recent study found that when gun ownership went down in the US, the overall suicide rates decreased.
- There are way too many accidents involving children playing with guns or accidental discharges due to careless or inexperienced adults and if guns are readily accessible, they can more easily fall into the hands of children.
Too many criminals purchase guns legally and use them to commit crimes such as the incident in Newtown, Connecticut which killed 20 children and eight adults (including the shooter himself).
Even President Obama said that after the Newton incident, his administration would take action towards more gun control. In his speech at Newtown, he asked, "Are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?"
Lawmakers have also said it is time for the nation to take a look at its gun control laws.
Debate Round No. 1
DaejahBlue

Con

I agree that guns are responsible for high death rates however, 75% of those death rates were among victims whom which were killed by the hands of those who were put into place to protect us. Police all over the country have gone on an increasingly high power trip especially in authority. Assault on women involving a gun could have been prevented if it weren't so difficult to obtain a gun. It is easier for someone to get a gun on the street for protection rather than at you local gun store. And that is only because gun laws are so strict in NEW YORK alone. In order to possess a gun in New York City, you will need a valid New York City handgun license or rifle/shotgun permit. The process for obtaining a handgun license in New York City is long (between 3 " 6 months, and waits up to 8 months are not uncommon), and compared to many other jurisdictions, rather expensive. It"s not particularly difficult, but it is tedious and incredibly time consuming. It tests your patience, and there is a lot of bureaucracy to deal with. It's a 1-3 month wait just to have an officer assigned to your application. All the while you're living in an unsafe crime area and are looking to protect yourself and loves ones. but have to wait damn near a year in order to do so. Not only is the submission extensive so it the payment process. Fees for application process include " 2 US Postal Money Orders, made payable to New York City Police Department are required, one for $340 (for the application), and one for either $94.25 (electronic fingerprints) or $105.25 (ink fingerprints), depending on how you are being fingerprinted. These fees are non-refundable. so even if your application is denied you're out of $340.00. Theses gun laws are too strict and expensive. Crime rates would definitely decrease if they were to let up on a few of these strict restrictions. The time frame is completely ridiculous. And the only reason gun trafficking is done on under the radar is because people nowadays specifically minorities have more than just the gang members in the neighborhood to fear they have their government and police as well.
hnicole

Pro

Gun control laws would make it a little more difficult and a little more expensive to buy a firearm.
In disagreement with your statement of "people doing what they can in order to get what they want," basically means that in order to stop the trafficking of guns from states with looser gun laws into states with tougher gun laws something major has to be done. However, with these laws, it WILL be harder to attain a gun.

Even President Obama said If gun control laws are in effect then a set up of a strong background check system including having the FBI hire a couple hundred more people to help process background checks because their big numbers since talking about 20 million checks are getting done every year. Hiring 200 more ATF agents to be able to go after unscrupulous gun dealers. Then that will apply across the country and so, you know, some states may have laws that allow for conceal and carry. Some states may not. There"s still going to be differences, but what will at least be consistent across the country is that it"s much harder to get a firearm.

There is no guarantee that criminals especially ones like the modern say Al Capone are not going to have ways of getting guns, but it may be a little more difficult and a little more expensive, and the laws of supply and demand mean that if something is harder to get and a little more expensive to get, fewer people get them and that can make a difference.
Debate Round No. 2
DaejahBlue

Con

In doing so, the hiring of new agents and departments to keep track would consist of more tax dollars in order to pay them to do so. If the United states is willing spend that much money on reinforcements than there should't be a problem in buying more efficient systems to run background checks or decrease the application fees. There's a price to pay for living arrangements, food , education and other necessities but there shouldn't ever be a price on protection. The Second Amendment gives the individual the right to keep and bear arms. Gun control laws do not thwart criminals. You have a right to defend yourself against criminals. An armed populace means less crime. Its ok to regulate gun dealing as long as it doesn't violate the second amendment. Criminals don't pay any attention to laws... If guns were ever banned than only the bad guys would have them..Criminals prefer unarmed victims!!
Having a gun will not help all the time but being defenseless will never help..
When seconds matter calling 911 and asking the bad guy to wait is not a viable option.

Better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it!!!
**Police do not protect you from crime, they just investigate the crime after it happens.** With enforcing strict gun laws are we protecting the people or the criminals?
hnicole

Pro

The use of these tax dollars will be put into a good use. Isn't it better to do full background checks on someone before basically handing them a gun? If someone believes they need to possess a gun in order to feel safer and more secure then that is absolutely fine. However, anyone who desires a gun for that reason should not have any problem going through a thorough background check system. In conclusion, it doesn't make sense for everyone to just carry around a gun without a valid reason. Just allowing guns to be shared and dealt freely will do us more harm than you may see it does good. It has and will spike more crime, increase the number of deaths, homicides, and suicide rates. If we don't do anything to make the situation better then we should blame ourselves for the mass shootings that have been taken place and similar situations where the suspect obtains an illegal firearm. If there is something done to alleviate the negatives and focus on the safety of innocent people, then the good definitely outweighs the bad.
Debate Round No. 3
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