Guns rights are the most common denominators in shooting massacres/mas violence
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After this, I will introduce my argument and you may introduce yours along with some points.
If you do not fully understand the topic, allow me to clarify. I am stating that all the shooting massacres are mainly caused by the selling of guns in the U.S.A in the first place, and that they deserve to be banned.
I would like to begin by arguing that gun rights are the main cause of mass killings by handheld weapons because none of this (Orlando shooting) would have occurred if the gun was not present at the killers hand. His parents explained to the media that he was not a terrorist, just a homophobe, meaning if the guns were not an easy get-to he probably would have never gotten his hands on it to begin with.
You have the option of keeping this debate in a more broad and general subject, meaning a general statement that "guns should not be banned" rather than mentioning it all based off the events of the Orlando shooting.
Let me begin with my original statement, my opponent brings a good point about there being "arrows". Let's not lie to ourselves, by shooting, many of us recognize it as a gun shooting. Instances with bow and arrows have certain classifications.
My opponent has stated that he believes the most common denominator of shootings are generally "the want of shooting". But there are steps until the desirer gets to his wish, and the main thing that would get in ones way is getting the gun, which was not the issue for Omar Mateen in the Orlando shooting (Daly & Harris, 2016).
CON argues that " one instance does not warrant your claim " yet he himself knows there are many other instances. Shooters in the US obtain their guns legally and that is one thing the United States should not allow.
Now to his points, his first argument is "let"s not lie to ourselves, by shooting, many of us recognize it as a gun shooting." EVEN if we all knew what was meant by it that does not change the fact that bow and arrows take part in the resolution. My opponent is essentially trying to defend himself by saying "you know what I mean" even though by definition bow and arrows do count as shooting, thus what I say is still valid. And I also when accepting the challenge, I was not a mind reader and did not know that he meant that, but that shouldn"t have been a problem if he had limited the resolution enough to what he was aiming for.
Next, my opponent misunderstood and it may be my fault so I will clarify. What I mean by " want of shooting" is not shooting, the desire to shoot. For example, before I eat something I would have to have the desire to eat it, and you"re essentially saying the most common debater is utensils. So, I would say before most people buy guns to shoot, they would have a desire to shoot the gun.
Lastly, my opponent claims to read my mind by saying I know many other instances, but I do not know of other instances and he would have accept that.
My opponent has still yet to prove that the selling of guns is the MOST common denominator of shooting massacres, and that they deserve to be banned, keep in mind you have to prove both not just one in order to win the debate. The only thing he did to back this up was state one incident in which the shooter bought a gun.
To one of the point CON has mentioned; "I would say before most people buy guns to shoot, they would have a desire to shoot the gun." I would like to state that originally what the desirer felt in the beginning was caused because he/she KNEW that they themselves were able to obtain the guns to begin with, people in countries with no guns never feel the desire, they are only driven by media. So maybe something the U.S.A could work on is what mentality is put onto people that can potentially cause harm?
Next, here my opponent"s counter argument is that people only get the desire to shoot when they know they are able to obtain a gun, but let"s all remember the desire to shoot includes bows and arrows and so the shooting massacres including arrows did not have anything to do with selling of guns, but did have to do with the desire to shoot.
TheBigthink forfeited this round.
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