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Has Hitler really done anything wrong?

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Shrekoning
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/8/2016 Category: Education
Updated: 8 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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JohnBrownwood

Con

Lookie here now, kids. I don't know why but in the previous debate some idiot joined and did nothing, thus another debate. Do ya good lads really think that hitler has done anything wrong? Well, i guess someone has ate a ton of propaganda today, or atleast the whole your pathetic life. Hitler did nothing wrong, all he has done is for the name of the german people, he re established germany, grew it's economy, freed germany from the jewish lads that made it's people patheticly poor, and ya dare to call him a bad guy? Ya dare him to call a slaugterer? He wanted no war with britain, france, poland or any other country, but we made them must.. After the world war one, all of the pacts signed by germany were made so it would get annihilated, butchered apart.. And so the uprising has begun.

He had nothing against jews, if ya have doubts ya can go to wikipedia and google "haavara agreement" which was an agreement of peacefully transfering german jews into palestine, oh right. Holocaust? That did not happen, that was a lie. Where do ya know that hitler gassed jews from? HAHA, Let me guess, intenret? Or was it your grandfather's allied force's bloody propaganda? Anyway, ya little uneducated chaps are in for an epic fail. Good luck winning this one. <3
Shrekoning

Pro

I will accept this challenge and will gladly Re-Educate Mr.Brownwood.
Debate Round No. 1
JohnBrownwood

Con

A'ight, what do i start with..
He tried to prevent the destruction of his fellow Europeans Numerous occasions Hitler tried to warn and assist his fellow brethren about the Jewish trap they had fallen for and who really was behind all the warmonger. He dropped fliers from planes trying in vein to prevent Germany and Britain fighting. He initially wanted to make alliances with Britain. Many occasions he gave opportunities to opposing European forces, where he could have slaughtered them. It was his internal spiritual angst for him to be fighting (defending) amongst his European brothers and sisters. He did all he could to avoid war, he was not the warmonger we all have been led to believe.
While poles killed civilians, tortured war prisoners, killed pilots in a cowardly way and when the germans came to blitzkrieging the hell out of the warsaw, guess what happened. Hitler stopped the attack for a few and asked polish lads YET AGAIN if they would sign the peace treaty, they declined, got hit. Now i really want ya to tell me that hitler was a jewkiller, a slaughterer. Please go right ahead.
Shrekoning

Pro

There are NUMEROUS testimonies of people who were actually alive during this time and experienced this event. From American soldiers who came upon the concentration camps to survivors of the camps themselves. Many people who did not fit Hitler's idea of a true German were sent to work and/or die. This group typically includes:

Social democrats, socialists, trade unionists, Freemasons, communists, anarchists, convicts, forced laborers, Jehovah's Witnesses and other small religious groups, homosexual men, asocial and "work shy" people, Gypsies, mentally ill, Alcoholics and drug addicts, Beggars, Pacifists, draft dodgers, and POWs.

The matter of the fact is, that the death and mistreatment of so many human beings is simply too difficult to pull off as a massive conspiracy that never actually happened. To me, it seems as if you have anger towards Jews, calling them "scum". I wouldn't think you would have a problem with Hitler killing Jews, I would think that you would stand by it and be proud of his genocide of said "scum".

Let us look at the Means, Motive, and the Opportunity. I shall start with Motive.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Hitler was Motivated in his hatred for Jews and other groups. We can see this very clearly in his own writing, "Mein Kampf".

Volume Two- A Reckoning
Chapter XV: The Right of Emergency Defense

" If at the beginning of the War and during the War twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: twelve thousand scoundrels eliminated in time might have saved the lives of a million real Germans, valuable for the future."

And another quote from another chapter..
"If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men"

Hitler clearly believed that, A.) Jews betrayed him and Germany during WW1 and cost them the war. And that B.) If he allowed Jews with their Marxist creed to win, that it would cause the death of all people. So we can clearly see that Hitler's rage at the loss of WW1 focused itself on the Jew, a convenient target for his hatred and the hatred of his followers. I propose that Hitler may have always been a little prejudiced to Jews, caused by some bad experience in his life, and that WW1 caused him to snap and illogically blame and hate the Jewish people. So we can see Hitler has clear motive to kill the Jewish people.

It is undebatable that Hitler had both the means and opportunity to kill many Jews. As undisputed Ruler of Germany, he commanded a lot of power, fear, and respect. Hitler could give just about any command to his soldiers, and the vast majority of them would follow them to the letter, despite what the order would be. With his secret police forces and sole authority, it is clear he had opportunity to round up Jews and slaughter them.

I rest my case for Round 2 here, and await for your response.
Debate Round No. 2
JohnBrownwood

Con

JohnBrownwood forfeited this round.
Shrekoning

Pro

Hitler has verbally spoken of his intent to kill the Jewish people. He personally thought that the Jews were responsible for World War 1, and thus thought they were responsible for World War 2. Here is a quote from his 1939 speech to the Reich-stag,

"Today I will once more be a prophet: If the
international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in
plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the
Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation
of the Jewish race in Europe! "

How one can argue against verbal confirmation of an intent to eradicate a race of people is beyond me.
Debate Round No. 3
JohnBrownwood

Con

JohnBrownwood forfeited this round.
Shrekoning

Pro

Undefeated
Debate Round No. 4
JohnBrownwood

Con

JohnBrownwood forfeited this round.
Shrekoning

Pro

So many internet arugments won.

Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by WhineyMagiciann5 9 months ago
WhineyMagiciann5
how can yoyu prove that it was the jews fault then?
Posted by JohnBrownwood 9 months ago
JohnBrownwood
Na, aws. Jews that were in the head of the government were responsible for all the bank crashes and economic failures of the Germans, ya trust me on that one.
Posted by AWSM0055 9 months ago
AWSM0055
The economy was sh*t because of the treaty of Versailles thingy between the allies and Germany during WW1. The allies made it extremely hard for Germany, and even made Germany accept FULL responsibility for the damages of ww1. So Germany kept printing money to pay off the allies, thus inflation, thus sh*t economy. Nothing to do with the Jews. They were just a scapegoat for Hitler and the people that followed him, because they had no one else to blame except for themselves (though Germany accepting full responsibility for WW1 was harsh, blaming it on the Jews was still wrong).

If you want a real life example of Hitler, there's Donald Trump.

John Brownbutt's thinking is so childish, it's actually quite funny. I guess that explains why he's in the military - to uneducated to do anything else.
Posted by WhineyMagiciann5 9 months ago
WhineyMagiciann5
your not even getting what I am saying...
Posted by JohnBrownwood 9 months ago
JohnBrownwood
Executions were happening everywhere, even in british and american emprisonment camps or whatever those guys were calling those..

However, do ya know what holocaust really is? Holocaust=Hunt for jews.
Nobody hunted them, they were free to go, free to live, However in germany they were strictly forbidden due to them crashing the economy and doing a lot of bad things to the germany.

Think it this way, if Hitler would really want to annihilate jews, he would go straight for the bombing spree of palestine, but that never happened, or did it?
Posted by WhineyMagiciann5 9 months ago
WhineyMagiciann5
he was german. he knew they were speaking german. they had swastikas. he was forced to into harsh conditions as a teen. he even witnessed a firing squad gun down a group of people in with him.
how do you refute that?
Posted by JohnBrownwood 9 months ago
JohnBrownwood
Concentration camp=Holocaust..

Russia also had those back in his days, i bet ya'll not say a thing about russians killing jews, right? Oh, i do know why, because it was a propaganda to leave ya little imbreds thinkin that germans were the ones actually doin that.. No one was against jews. No one.

I mean, seriously. Imagine hitler being firendly with palestine for 4 years and suddenly he begins executing jews in "gas chambers"..Really dude? Haavara agreement, read it ya uneducated kids.
Posted by WhineyMagiciann5 9 months ago
WhineyMagiciann5
I had a family member that died 2 years ago that was in a concentration camp. how do you disprove that?
Posted by POPOO5560 9 months ago
POPOO5560
im not jewish. why u talk in general calling jews germans and stuff u should get out of the imagination of "loving germany" and get into real life.
Posted by JohnBrownwood 9 months ago
JohnBrownwood
Blame on jews? Ya little uneducated kid and your little re tarded neighbours are really ones to blame! Your jewish sc*m really did destroy germany! They've brought terrible things such as:Propaganda, pornography, homosexuality, books about ridiculing christianity and all, and ya dare to say that hitler is the one to blame? Pathetic performance, kiddo. Go back to school and stop eating propagandas all the day.
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