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Annbella
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Freeman
Pro (for)
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Started: 11/12/2009 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,921 times Debate No: 9870
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Annbella

Con

I don't know, what i should debate about!!!!! I'm in school and i have to do beside just sit here!!!
Freeman

Pro

Let me begin by thanking Annbella for creating this debate.

My opponent hasn't given a topic, so we shall argue about abortion.

The resolution will be "Abortions are not morally wrong." I will take the Pro side of the debate, and since most abortions occur in the first trimester this debate will only focus on abortions that take place during that time period.

*Case Pro*

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The Biological Version of the Central Anti Abortion Argument
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Throughout the years there have been many arguments put forth against abortion. However, most of them are derived from some version of the following syllogism:

{1} It is wrong to kill an innocent member of the species Homo sapiens.
{2} A human fetus is an innocent member of the species Homo sapiens.
{3} Therefore, it is wrong to kill a human fetus.

This argument is structurally valid. However, not all of the premises are sound. [1] It fails to demonstrate why membership inside of a species represents a significant moral boundary. Furthermore, if the argument were valid it would also have to be valid in the case of someone that has experienced upper brain death since they can also be innocent members of the species Homo sapiens. [2] Like a fetus, a human with upper brain death can also have a beating heart and many of the basic biological functions that we associate with being "alive". And once we take this scenario into consideration we can rewrite the syllogism so that it reads as follows:

{1} It is wrong to kill an innocent member of the species Homo sapiens.
{2} A human with upper brain death is an innocent member of the species Homo sapiens.
{3} Therefore, it is wrong to kill a human with upper brain death.

After we have put this alternative into the syllogism we are left with a reductio ad absurdum argument. If the biological version of the anti abortion argument were valid then this derivative would also be valid. However, it is simply nonsensical to speak of the "murder" of someone who has already experienced a permanent loss of consciousness. [3] Clearly, the first premise of the central anti abortion argument is deeply flawed. In order for us to formulate a syllogism regarding murder that is sensible we must first identify what moral principle distinguishes a normal adult human from one that has experienced upper brain death. And given the obvious differences in cognition between these two subjects the search for this principle should not be too difficult. Consequentially, this moral principle must involve some kind of reference to the mental abilities of a normal human that are not present in someone with upper brain death. From this standpoint it then becomes easy to realize that the right to life any entity can hold rests within its respective capacity for cognition. [4]

Once it becomes established that cognition is the relevant moral distinction between normal humans and those without functional upper brains many things follow, both ethically and logically. With this in mind I will introduce the proper criterion for judging the ethics of abortion later. But, for now, it will be sufficient to recognize that something can't seriously have a right to life if it lacks certain kinds of mental capacities. This recognition will then pave the way for me to create my first argument.

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Contention 1: A fetus doesn't have a right to life.
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A fetus is a member of the biological species homo sapiens, but it is not a person. [5] It is not a rational and self-conscious being and therefore it cannot be granted the same rights that we would grant to a person. Moreover, a fetus is not capable of holding a conscious desire to continue living. Therefore, it is meaningless to speak about the "murder" of a fetus. Murder implies the unlawful killing of a person that has a conscious desire to continue living.

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Conclusion
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People have a serious right to life because they are self-conscious and are able to hold a desire to continue living. On the other hand, a fetus is not a self-conscious being nor is it capable of holding preferences one-way or the other with respect to its existence. Therefore, it is not morally wrong to kill a fetus. The fetus may be "innocent" in some sense, but this is irrelevant since it doesn't have a right to life. I will expand upon this argument later, but for now I will leave it up to Pro to present their case.

Definitions:

morality- 1. The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com...

abortion- a. Induced termination of a pregnancy with destruction of the embryo or fetus.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com...

1st Trimester Abortions- More than 90% of all abortions are performed in the 1st trimester - up through 12 weeks.
http://www.abortion.com...

Self-consciousness is an acute sense of self-awareness. It is a preoccupation with oneself, as opposed to the philosophical state of self-awareness, which is the awareness that one exists as an individual being; although some writers use both terms interchangeably or synonymously.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Sources:

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...
[2] http://health.howstuffworks.com...
[3] http://books.google.com...
[4] http://spot.colorado.edu...
[5] http://www.utilitarian.net...
Debate Round No. 1
Annbella

Con

Annbella forfeited this round.
Freeman

Pro

Extend my arguments.
Debate Round No. 2
Annbella

Con

Annbella forfeited this round.
Freeman

Pro

Thanks for the debate Annbella. You've really opened up my eyes.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Sniperjake1994 6 years ago
Sniperjake1994
eh.........................................................wow...........................................vote bomb for pro
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
PRO gets all categories due to multiple forfeits. Even individually:
Grammar: (Con had an unnecessary comma and had poor capitalization, all in one line)
Conduct: (Con forfeited)
Arguments: (Con forfeited, and had no arguments, and had BoP)
Sources: (Con used no sources, while PRO used many)
Posted by Mixer 7 years ago
Mixer
That was absolutely hilarious. The bluntness caught me off-guard.
Posted by ciphermind 7 years ago
ciphermind
This is hilarious. The contender is actually the instigator.
Posted by Freeman 7 years ago
Freeman
There is no point in creating a new and interesting argument for someone that will either forfeit or write 3 sentences in defense of the resolution.
Posted by philosphical 7 years ago
philosphical
And it gives her something to argue on
Posted by Danielle 7 years ago
Danielle
Yep. Nothing wrong with that :)
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
No, he didn't. He just copied and pasted his argument from one of the numerous other debates he's had over abortion.
Posted by Danielle 7 years ago
Danielle
LOL!!! Oh man.
Posted by Xer 7 years ago
Xer
Weird...

Freeman, I hope you do realize you just wasted your time. :)
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