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Oni
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emmccarty
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High School Service Learning Requirements Should Be Eliminated

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Started: 12/12/2007 Category: Education
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Oni

Pro

In many high schools across America there is a service learning requirement for all students. This is often a condition for graduation and is meant to teach and encourage youth participation throughout the community. I understand the concept behind it, but I feel as if it has lost its meaning in today's schools. Many people simply lie about about the hours they clock in toward the project and those who don't lie about it do a project that has nothing to do with the community and therefore learn nothing from it. Many see it as nothing more than an obstacle rather than a learning experience, which is why I believe that this system should be re-evaluated to reflect today's changes in school social climate and made more relevant to both students and administrators alike.
emmccarty

Con

Although I understand the pro's argument, I think that it would be near impossible. The pro so far hasn't shown any ways that the plans could be reevaluated, and I truly cannot see a way that would force students to be more honest. In addition to this, I believe that the current system is effective. Anyone who would lie on their form wouldn't do an effective job volunteering even if they did. It is useless to expect those who don't care about service to provide adequate service, so why not just allow them to lie.
Debate Round No. 1
Oni

Pro

Thanks for accepting, and I see your point. Sorry, I'm a bit new at this form of debate and neglected to provide a contention for solvency.

The main problem I see with the system in the status-quo is that it is too vague as to what "service learning" is and what it is meant to accomplish. Students are often given a time sheet and told to use their own discretion in finding an activity. I believe that if the system becomes more centralized to focus on the purpose of service learning and provide more guidance and opportunities for service learning initiatives that service learning will be taken much more seriously as an enriching experience, rather than an obstacle.

To respond to your second point, I find it somewhat insensible to believe that simply because someone would lie about their service learning that they would be completely useless as a service learning participant. Many people lie on their forms simply because the system is, again, too vague. This vagueness prevents a service learning participant to see the purpose of service learning and further see it as a useless endeavor.
emmccarty

Con

I am afraid I have to disagree. I do not think students lie on their form or don't volunteer because it is too vague. In fact, I think vagueness increases the number of people who volunteer. It allows people to choose outlets for their volunteering that interest them. This way they aren't forced to do something that they find uninteresting and boring. If the system forces people to do certain things, it would make it even HARDER to get all of their hours, and they would be more inclined to lie. The more possibilities for volunteering, the more volunteering will take place.
Debate Round No. 2
Oni

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emmccarty

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Oni 9 years ago
Oni
Can't change the title it seems... well thank you for helping me clarify that.
Posted by Oni 9 years ago
Oni
Ah, I see what you are saying. I'm saying that the system should be fixed and made more meaningful, rather than complete elimination. I'll make appropriate changes...
Posted by Ineffablesquirrel 9 years ago
Ineffablesquirrel
So are you saying the system should be fixed and the community involvement made more meaningful to students and administrators alike and, therefore, that would make the experience better (and less of an obstacle)? OR are you saying it should be done away with completely? Please clarify. Thanks.
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