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High-end fashion houses should not produce plus-size clothes for women

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Started: 9/3/2010 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Rolls-Royce don't make pick-up trucks.
Le Manoir aux Quat'Saisons don't serve hamburgers and fries.
Sunseeker Yachts don't make pedalos.
Fortnum & Mason don't sell toilet rolls.
Cartier don't make disposable lighters.
Montblanc don't make felt tip pens.
Chanel don't make air fresheners.
The Ritz doesn't have strippers on in the Palm Court.
And high-end fashion houses don't make clothes for fat women.

When a German magazine dared to suggest that fashion houses should produce clothes for overweight women, designer Karl Lagerfeld branded the idea "absurd" and said that it was driven by "fat mummies sitting with their bags of crisps in front of the television, saying that thin models are ugly".

And in June this year, British designer Julien Macdonald, who is a judge on the TV show Britain's Next Top Model, said that it would be "a joke" if a plus-size model won the contest. [1]

However, Tamara Sender, Senior Fashion Analyst at market research company Mintel said: "Rising levels of obesity…mean that plus-size consumers are increasing and these shoppers are looking for improved choice in plus-size clothing and more fashionable garments" and with "nearly 40% of the female population wearing clothes sized 16 and over, there is growing demand for clothing more representative of the overall population." [2]

Nevertheless, no major up-market fashion house has so far produced a range of clothes for ladies with fuller figures.

And neither should they.

Luxury goods are supposed to be attractive and aspirational and few would suggest that an outfit on a size 18 model would look more attractive than on a size 8 model - and very few women aspire to be fat!

So if a high-end fashion house tried to cash in on the demand for outsize designer clothes they would immediately relegate their brand to that of a mainstream clothes manufacturer which would mean they could no longer charge premium prices for their goods.

Look at it this way: people pay extra for a bottle of Dom P�rignon over other brands of champagne because of it's perceived cachet, but would they continue to do so if the company decided to produce a range of Dom P�rignon-branded alcopops as well? I doubt it!

For the same reason, high-end fashion houses should not produce plus-size clothes for women.

Thank you.





Why should fatso women be treated bad

i dont see da difference we are all da same ultimately

you are a prejudice
Debate Round No. 1


I am not prejudiced and I do realise that it's not a fat person's fault that they were born genetically greedy and lazy, but there is a treatment available – it's called "eating less and getting more exercise".

But this cure doesn't come in pill form – it requires willpower – and sadly, for too many people, the attractions of TV and pizzas are just too strong to overcome: which is why so many women are overweight.

At the end of the day (and I'm guessing here) sh1t with sugar on it doesn't taste much better than plain old excrement and the same principle applies to fat birds. No matter how much they spend on fancy clothes, posh hairstyles and expensive cosmetics, they cannot disguise the fact they are overweight.

Let's be honest with ourselves here shall we? Which girl do you think a man would rather take home: a nice sexy slim girl wearing a cheap dress or a big fat ugly girl wearing an expensive dress?

You see? And that's why it's a good thing that high-end fashion houses don't make clothes for overweight women – as well as damaging their brands' images, it would be a waste of fat women's money.

Thank you.


SmellyPoo forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by gerrandesquire 7 years ago
Con could have done better. He could have actually tried. Taken the example of dashing Pierce Brosnan who married a girl double his size. Or could have argued that fat people actually need the fashionable clothes since they are, well, challenged. while the beautiful could wear a bag and still look presentable.

But since con pathetically failed, and made just one point, and that too in troll-tongue, points to pro, i guess.
Posted by RoyLatham 7 years ago
"This initial design was considered too plain and unremarkable for a project of such immense scale, so Los Angeles-based architect Gordon B. Kaufmann was brought in to redesign the exteriors. Kaufmann greatly streamlined the buildings, and applied an elegant Art Deco style to the entire project, with sculptured turrets rising seamlessly from the dam face and clock faces on the intake towers set for Pacific and Mountain time zones. Hoover Dam today is considered one of the finest examples of Art Deco anywhere in the world."

If Hoover Dam can be transformed to transcending elegance, a worthy fashion designer should be able to measure up to smaller challenges.

Unfortunately, Con fell pathetically short of measuring up to the gravity of the subject. Pro used "don't" instead of "doesn't" a half dozen times, leaving Con an opening to at least salvage points for spelling and grammar, but Con could not even meet that challenge. It is a sad day for DDO debate.

All points to Pro.
Posted by brian_eggleston 7 years ago
I thought Frenchmoose
Posted by Zetsubou 7 years ago
SmellyPoo looks like the_genius' alt account.
Posted by Zetsubou 7 years ago
Pro has a point here,

But then again, B_E has had abit too much debates themed around fatties.
Posted by I-am-a-panda 7 years ago
"you are a prejudice" - I lol'd
Posted by gerrandesquire 7 years ago
i wish i *could* have taken this.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
Brain wins.
Posted by gerrandesquire 7 years ago
i wish i would have taken this.
Posted by nonentity 7 years ago
LMAO I actually agree with the resolution though... But funny argument!
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