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PryorPirate93
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SportsGuru
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42 Points

Hippo's are mammals.....

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Started: 3/3/2008 Category: Science
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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PryorPirate93

Pro

Hippo's are mammals because:
1.THEY ARE BORN LIVE
2.THEY HAVE HAIR
3. THEY'RE CUDDLY
So hippo's are the cuddly giants of the river......even thought they could kill you in an instant!!!!!!!
SportsGuru

Con

First, I wish my opponent good luck and ask that the voters vote based on who gave the best arguments rather than which side they agree with.

Although I could certainly challenge my opponent's criterion for the classification of mammal, I accept it as the first two are correct and the last does not hurt my case. Thus, in order for something to be a mammal, it must be born live, have hair AND, be cuddly.

For my first point, I urge the voters to see that the resolution states "Hippo's are mammals..." Now by using English grammar, we can see that "Hippo's" is the singular possessive form of "hippo" (ex. The hippo's breath smelled bad.). As such, "Hippo's" is an inanimate object (a word) and cannot live. As it cannot live, it cannot be born live nor can it have hair. Thus, according to my opponent's criterion, "Hippo's" are NOT mammals.

Now, there are probably some voters who are thinking "Pro just made a mistake. He did not mean to put ‘Hippo's'. Con is just being mean so I am going to vote Pro." If you indeed are thinking along these lines, please look at my next argument, which works under the assumption that Pro put "Hippos" rather than "Hippo's". If you are not thinking along these lines, I am certainly not going to prevent you from reading onward but I remind you that the previous argument is plenty to fulfill my burden of refutation and win the debate.

The corrected topic reads "Hippos are mammals...." However, there is a HUGE assumption in the topic. That assumption is that reality is indeed exactly as we (humans) perceive it. Now my opponent naturally takes the human perspective (as he is a human), which states that hippos exist. However, as humans are flawed, everything humans create (including their perspective) is flawed. As the human perception is flawed, the perception that hippos exist must be flawed. Since the perception that hippos exist is flawed, hippos must not exist. If hippos don't exist, they can't be cuddly, be born live or have hair. Hence, hippos cannot be mammals according to my opponent's criterion.

Thus, vote for Con as I have sufficiently proven the resolution (and my opponent) wrong using my opponent's criterion and have fulfilled my burden of refutation.

Thank You.
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Samacado 9 years ago
Samacado
that's funny. in all tecnivality though they are rodents, but due to their size can be clasified either way
Posted by SportsGuru 9 years ago
SportsGuru
@ Kierkegaard

Thanks for the compliment.

@ kleptin

I agree with your opinion about loopholes. I guess you have had a lot of debates with those if those conspiracy theories are true. ;)
Posted by Kleptin 9 years ago
Kleptin
Good debate. I'm very fond of debates won via loopholes. I find them more entertaining than the standard "you post lots, I'll post lots" :)
Posted by Kierkegaard 9 years ago
Kierkegaard
Kudos for SportsGuru for being awesome.

:D
Posted by SportsGuru 9 years ago
SportsGuru
I just wish this was more than one round.
Posted by SportsGuru 9 years ago
SportsGuru
Thank you.

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Posted by Vi_Veri 9 years ago
Vi_Veri
Very nice, SportsGuru :) Very nice indeed
Posted by SportsGuru 9 years ago
SportsGuru
Thank you for the compliment. =)
Posted by PryorPirate93 9 years ago
PryorPirate93
tHEM YOU LIKE TO CHALLENGE YOURSELF?????
That's an admirable trait.....
Posted by SportsGuru 9 years ago
SportsGuru
Sorry, just a coincidence. I just like to debate from positions that seem impossible/improbable to win from.
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