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History: Allied countries are just as much to blame for the outbreak of WWII (1939-1945) as Germany

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Started: 7/19/2016 Category: Education
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This debate will focus on the fact that the allied countries are just as much to blame for the outbreak of war in 1939, I will argue the fact that countries, such as Britain, France, the US etc are just as much at blame as Germany is.

My opening argument is going to focus heavily on the Treaty of Versailles (signed in 1919) and the effects it had on Germany:

After WWI the victorious allies gathered in Versailles, France, in June 1919 and signed the Treaty of Versailles. This document was extremely long and more than anything was harsh on Germany. The reasons for the outbreak of WW1 are varied and can be argued but it can not be denied that the actions taken by the allies after the war was over had such a deep impact upon Germany that it directly correlated to Hitlers ability to gain the chancellorship 1933.

It must be noted that the Treaty of Versailles was forced on Germany as they were not allowed to take part in the negotiations and were forced to sign it under threat of further warfare. This is partially why the terms were so harsh, but perhaps worst of all was the fact that Germany was forced to pay "6.6 billion in reparations to be paid over 66 years. In 1923, when Germany defaulted on one of the ridiculous payments, France and Belgium invaded the Ruhr ("the heart of the German economy"). This led to the workers of the area going on strike, however, the government supported them and continued to pay their wages. In this time the German economy spiralled out of control and in less than a year money in Germany was worthless, unemployment was at an all time high and poverty sky rocketed. This led to the German people turning to extremists parties such as the Nazis. And of course they would, in desperate situations people turn to desperate measures.

Another term in the Treaty of Versailles was that Germany was to become a democratic country. The new system of proportional representation was soon introduced. This has been known as a perfect form of government -- on paper. In practice it was dysfunctional and led to many fledgling political parties such as the Nazis. With so many groups vieing for power and most claiming to represent the working class votes were spread and no party could gain a majority. This led to weak coalition governments in which decisions were slow and compromised. This was the opposite of what the German people were used to under the rule of the Kaiser who had made strong, reliable decisions quickly.

The treaty also led to the destruction of the German military. The size of the army was reduced to 100,000 men, warships were given to the allies, the Rhineland was demilitarised, planes were banned as were submarines. This was of great annoyance to the German people who had a proud martial tradition and now were left with a mere police force in place of a once great military.

The Weimar was unable to deal with all of this and the people felt stabbed in the back by their representatives.

This is leaving out many of the other terms of the Treaty which I will speak about later. For now, to sum up, the events which took place after the Great War forced the German people to turn to extremists which would later lead to the outbreak of world war 2.


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Debate Round No. 1


Continuing from my above points, the allied countries forced the Treaty of Versailles upon Germany which essentially destroyed the nation in terms of its economy, employment rates, social divisions and poverty.

After hyperinflation (1923) a man named Gustav Stresseman was able to repair the country by creating a new form of currency, the rentenmark, and borrowing a series of short term loans from the US (the allied country least affected by Germany during WWI and so was most lenient) through the Dawes plans. This led to the "Golden Years" of the Weimar republic (1924-1929) in which conditions in Germany greatly improved and were in fact better than in many other places.

However, in 1929 the wall street market crashed and America demanded Germany repay all of the money it owed America. This was vital, and while not caused by the allies it relates back to hyperinflation in 1923 as the people were very worried about a return to the problems they had once faced they almost immediately turned to the extremists. One who stood out was Hitler for he had lost almost all support during the golden years but did state that Germany should "not tie her economy to that of another country". Because he later turned out to be right people saw him as an economic guru of sorts and, along with all of his policies which he promised to implement (such as tearing up the treaty of Versailles and giving the people a scapegoat -- the Jews), he gained a lot of support by the masses.

Some historians have commented on which event was more important when it comes to Hitler gaining power. Historian Snyder has commented saying that "hyperinflation was the scar that never healed" suggesting that the people had faced such hardship in 1923 they would never forget it and, as such, would do anything to prevent a return to such conditions. Historian AJP Taylor takes an opposing view stating that it "was the great depression that put the wind in Hitlers sails" suggesting that this was the event that pushed Hitler into power and allowed him to gain the chancellorship, while this is debatable (personally I believe it was the backstairs political intrigue between Von Pappen and Paul Von Hindenberg but I digress).

We can clearly see how the allies harsh treatment towards Germany after the first world war led to such socioeconomic issues that people became desperate and turned to the man who would be pivotal in the second world war: Adolf Hitler.

Indeed, other factors did heavily affect Hitlers rise to power, it was not simply these economic issues, however, it would be ignorant to say that they never had a major impact upon the events that transpired and so we can say that, because the allies caused many of Germanys' issues, they were indirectly involved in causing WWII and should be considered to be partly at fault.

In fact, it can be argued that it could have been avoided as, in the past, Germany had been lenient in their treaties so as to prevent future problems (see Austria during German Unification 1871).


Actually Islam, Darwinism and drugs were responsible for WWII.

(Video of Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazis)



"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

"I can imagine people being enthusiastic about the paradise of Mohammed, but as for the insipid paradise of the Christians! In your lifetime, you used to hear the music of Richard Wagner. After your death, it will be nothing but hallelujahs, the waving of palms, children of an age for the feeding bottle, and hoary old men. The man of the isles pays homage to the forces of nature. But Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A n***** with his taboos is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in transubstantiation."

"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [Islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so."

"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science... The instructions of a hygienic nature that most religions gave, contributed to the foundation of organized communities. The precepts ordering people to wash, to avoid certain drinks, to fast at appointed dates, to take exercise, to rise with the sun, to climb to the top of the minaret " all these were obligations invented by intelligent people. The exhortation to fight courageously is also self-explanatory. Observe, by the way, that, as a corollary, the Moslem was promised a paradise peopled with sensual girls, where wine flowed in streams " a real earthly paradise. The Christians, on the other hand, declare themselves satisfied if after their death they are allowed to sing hallelujahs! ...Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that's why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline.!"



Hitler used Darwinism to justify slaughtering innocent people and trying to conquer Europe.

"Darwinism by itself did not produce the Holocaust, but without Darwinism... neither Hitler nor his Nazi followers would have had the necessary scientific underpinnings to convince themselves and their collaborators that one of the worlds greatest atrocities was really morally praiseworthy."
-Richard Weikart, 'From Darwin to Hitler'

"Truly, this earth is a trophy cup for the industrious man. And this rightly so, in the service of natural selection. He who does not possess the force to secure his Lebensraum in this world, and, if necessary, to enlarge it, does not deserve to possess the necessities of life. He must step aside and allow stronger peoples to pass him by."
-Adolf Hitler


Hitler used a heavy mix of many, many drugs including cocaine. His doctor referred to it as "a cocktsil of over 80 drugs mixed together."

The Nazi soldiers were also given drugs to keep them as "super fighters".

A lethal mix of Darwinism, drugs, and Islamic indocrination caused WWII.
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