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Hitler Was a Sensitive Man

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Started: 2/28/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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AsslessChapsy

Pro

Hitler was a sensitive man.

He went to art school when he was younger.
He wanted to be a painter.
Hitler was a vegetarian.
He was also a non-smoker

He Hired gay and handicapped officers.
He was concerned about overpopulation.
If Hitler was alive today, he'd listen to the Cure, the Smiths, and Depeche Mode.

Hitler also loved his mother very much.
lexigomez

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-Do you know him in person to know he if he is a sensitive man?
-Basing from the timeline of his death, people that are acquainted to him are mainly dead or really old . Doubting that you have talked to any of his acquaintances, your basing his sensitive nature through the books you have read or any type of biography. Likewise, I have read about his "sensitive nature" that associated to why he loves art, (rumored) vegetarian, and the love for his mother but I have also read the hatred he had for jewish people, especially the wealthy ones.
-As for being a non-smoker, it just means he does not smoke. I'm not sure what your point is about his non-smoking habit.
-As for the gay and handicapped officers, there is no documented facts to this speculation. Germany was very strict with homosexuality and it definitely was kept under the radar. Handicapped was looked down upon with the exception of your ranking.
-The bands are completely irrelevant to this debate, it's a matter of opinion
Debate Round No. 1
AsslessChapsy

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- The study of history does not require that we know historical figures personally. It only requires that we have sources about the past - and we can certainly have knowledge, even if it isn't complete - about someone's character if the sources are strong enough. If we must know know historical figures personally, then I highly recommend calling all the textbook editors regarding their entries about Julius Caesar. Certainly no one can know anything about him when he died over 2000 years ago.

- Hitler's secretary, food taster, dietician, and physician all claim Hitler was a vegetarian, at least after the beginning of the war. Hitler himself spoke publicly and privately about his vegetarianism.

-Yes, Hitler had a profound hatred of jewish people- but are sensitive people not defined by the things they hate as well as the things they love?

-Ernst Rohm and the SA being homosexuals is well attested, and his homosexuality being used as an excuse to kill him over political differences.
lexigomez

Con

-I agree that history does not require to know the figure personally, but there's always a gap between the actual fact and the opinions of others. Since your argument is the strong validity of someone's character, I would like the take out the factors of his closest companions since they are infatuated with the fact that he is "good" or "sensitive" (hence, he provides their shelter and wealth). So I will provide "facts" since you are basing this part of the argument by "strong sources". The 20 July Plot, where a collaboration of German Army and Intelligence have betrayed their Fuhrer (Hitler), it has been well noted that few of the members of the collaboration are his closest confidant in his "inner circle" like Claus Von Stauffenberg.

Books by Hitler himself is very interesting and recommendable to issue about his "sensitivity" (correction: he partially wrote the books authored by him)
Books by official biographers like John Toland, Ian Kershaw, Allan Bullock, or William Shirer

-His favorite food was an Austrian dish called Leberkloesse (Liver Dumpling) and Bavarian Sausage confirmed by all his closest personal companions and biographers. Popular rumor but not confirmed that after his niece Geli died turning age of 42, he may have become flexiterian (vegetarian but also eats meat). Another speculation of the rumor that Hitler's vegetarianism is that back in his era vegetarian does include seafood and some exceptions of certain meat. Rather than the vegetarian claim, there's also rumors that doctors injects him with now known as Meth, does that mean he is a meth head?

Book: Animal Rights: Current Debates and New Directions
Book: Radical Vegetarianism

-Sensitive people CAN be defined by many things, but not a killer, that is another level.

- Ernst Rohm was homosexual but it wasn't publicly shown. Even though Hitler new, he had to pretend not to have known or else it will show weakness. Rohm's sexuality was actually used against him to continue with the persecution allegedly by Hitler himself, although it is rumored that Hitler felt so bad that he told him to commit suicide, but the fact that the only known fact was Hitler gave him a pistol and an option to commit suicide. Another rumor was his last words was"Let Adolf kill me himself"and that led Hitler to persecute him caused by disobedience.

Book: Social Outsiders in Nazi Germany
Debate Round No. 2
AsslessChapsy

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lexigomez

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lexigomez

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by lexigomez 2 years ago
lexigomez
Can you explain more about the similarity of Hitler and Putin?

Also can you please tell me more about the leading future to World War 3?

And how is German camps similar to the American encampment of Asians?
Posted by HarrisonJHamilton 2 years ago
HarrisonJHamilton
I believe history is written by the victors. I think Hitler, much like Putin of Russia today, wanted to see his country rise to the greatness it once knew. WW2 is history's biggest lie. The same western companies who built the "concentration camps" in Germany built the ones in America that the United States put Asians in during the war. Hitler retook German lands that were lost after WW1 which led to WW2. Putin is retaking RUSSIAN lands lost after the collapse of the Soviet Union which will lead to WW3.

Notice how western media is trying to make Putin out to be another Hitler?

History is written by the victors....
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