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Homework Should Be Banned

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Started: 3/1/2016 Category: Education
Updated: 9 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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kumarkm

Pro

Homework, a school tradition that has been going on for hundreds of years. Now its the 21st Century, and many professionals have found a reason to ban it. My first point Education, according to a recent study conducted by Harvard Medical students. A test showed that their is no correlation to students educational profile. This shows that if my opponent finds a correlation to education it will be invaild. Also it shows that it will not improve test scores acorrding to CNN.com a credible source. A reporter/teacher states that actually students perform better as they don't get confused. This is why homwork should be banned because education is not improving4

https://www.gse.harvard.edu...

OneSovietSoldier

Con

I shall humbly accept this debate, I am new to this website so we shall see how it goes.
First off however, since my opponent has not posted any rules, I shall do so.

Definitions

Ban - Officially or legally prohibit (something).
Homework - Schoolwork that a student is required to do at home.
Schoolwork - Work assigned students by their teachers in school.

Rules of Debate:

- No Semantics
- No New Argument's Last Round (Only Rebuttals)
- Any Forfeiture whether it would be by Con(me) or Pro shall automatically give victory to the opponent.

Since my opponent has also not posted any structure, I shall assume that the first round is acceptance. However, I shall point out flaws in my opponents argument before moving on. My opponent is allowed to do the same.

Logical Fallacy and Misleading:

My opponent has committed the Logical Fallacy of Hasty Generalization. He has specifically committed the sub-category of a misleading statistic. A Hasty Generalization is defined as: "Mistaken use of inductive reasoning when there are too few samples to prove a point." My opponent has said and I quote:


"according to a recent study conducted by Harvard Medical students. A test showed that their is no correlation to students educational profile. This shows that if my opponent finds a correlation to education it will be invalid."

My opponent has said that because of one test provided by Harvard Medical students finding no correlation between homework and education. All other studies I find that may correlate these are invalid. One test is simply a to small of a sample to represent the norm in this case and therefore I declare my opponents claim invalid. He has also done the same thing in his next quote:

"Also it shows that it will not improve test scores according to CNN.com a credible source. A reporter/teacher states that actually students perform better as they don't get confused."

Again, my opponent has proceeded to base his claim on one person saying students perform better without homework. One teacher cannot represent all the teachers in the United States or the world on homework. Therefore my opponent has committed another Hasty Generalization.

One More Note:

Although this may or may not be Red Herring, upon closer inspection of my opponents first source of his claim of no correlation between homework and education. It would seem that these students did no such "test" on what my opponent says they did. Even doing a Ctrl + F did not yield anything. The closest I got was:

"Who is right? Are students not working hard enough or is homework not working for them? Here's where the story gets a little tricky: It depends on whom you ask and what research you're looking at. As Cathy Vatterott, the author of Rethinking Homework, points out, "Homework has generated enough research so that a study can be found to support almost any position, as long as conflicting studies are ignored." Alfie Kohn, author of The Homework Myth and a strong believer in eliminating all homework, writes that, "The fact that there isn't anything close to unanimity among experts belies the widespread assumption that homework helps." At best, he says, homework shows only an association, not a causal relationship, with academic achievement. In other words, it's hard to tease out how homework is really affecting test scores and grades. Did one teacher give better homework than another? Was one teacher more effective in the classroom? Do certain students test better or just try harder?"

This quotation states no mention of any test done by Harvard students. It simply says that homework shows no casual relationship. Even if I was to base "casual relationship" as a correlation. This is based off this one page and there could be a billion other pages proving this wrong or right. Therefore, this is my second reason for claiming my opponents sources invalid.

I wish my opponent good luck, he may post his new argument's or defend his statistics as he pleases,
I am looking forward to this.

Sources:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com...
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https://www.gse.harvard.edu...

My Opponent's Quotes
Debate Round No. 1
kumarkm

Pro

kumarkm forfeited this round.
OneSovietSoldier

Con

It seems my opponent has forfeited, oh well! I shall continue :D

The following are my three arguments for why homework should not be banned:
R1) It helps retain memory of what you learned
R2) It helps you perform better on standardized tests
R3) It can prepare you for college

R1)
My first claim is that doing homework helps you retain memory of what you learned and reinforce those concepts. For this, I shall refer to this image:

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What is this you may ask? Anyone who has taken an A.P. Psychology (or Psych. In general) will know this. This is the forgetting curve that Ebbinghaus studied his whole life. He found that the brain does not simply hold on to the information, during the first day the brain forgets over 2/3 of what you were learning. This is why he recommended acoustic encoding and maintenance rehearsal to retain the information. So how does homework relate to this?
In fact, homework is actually maintenance rehearsal in disguise, maintenance rehearsal is defined as the theory that by rehearsing and repeating individual items, they will remain fresh in your short-term memory which will then move into the long-term memory stores as implied by the Working Memory Model.
For others that don't know the Working Memory Model:


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For people who want this in English, if you retain something long enough in your short term memory (doing your homework), your brain will end up transferring that short term memory of that math lesson into your long term memory. Therefore, you do not forget the concepts you learned in class and you can do better at the next lesson or that test that is coming up (midterms anyone?). Homework reinforces the concepts you learned in class and helps you retain that information due to a disguised memory rehearsal.

R2)

How does retaining this info help you though? Well, according to an article by District Administration: "There is a positive relationship between the amount of homework students do and their achievement outcomes,according to a 2006 study by Harris Cooper, director of Duke's University Program in Education, which analyzed and combined the results of dozens of homework studies. The studies found that students who had homework performed better on class tests compared to those who did not. Twelve studies linking the amount of homework to achievement and controlling for other factors, such as socioeconomic status, also found a positive link. Of 35studies that simply correlated homework and achievement,with no attempt to control for student differences,about 77 percent also found a positive link between time on homework and achievement."

As you can see, homework actually helps you perform better on tests. This is also more trustworthy than my opponent's source since this more than one study therefore I am not committing the act of a logical fallacy. If you want a quote from the article from the other end of the spectrum:

"Further, Tai and colleagues study, "When Is Homework Worth the Time?" also found that sophomores who spent more time on after-school assignments did not fare any better or worse with grades, but did perform better on standardized tests. Based on our research,it appears that the most effective use of homework may be to help students sharpen their skills with things that they already know how to do, rather than trying to use homework as an extension of class time"

There is also a quote from the article in my opponents favor. HOWEVER, it commits the act of a Hasty Generalization logical fallacy (read the first paragraph of the Case For Less" to see it.). Even with a quote (a little) in my opponents favor. It still proves that we need homework because tests count for more for your grade than anything else in Junior High and High School. You may be able to do the quizzes, but your grade will likely suffer if you do not do your homework. (I also speak from personal experience).

R3)

How in the world does just doing your homework prepare you for college? According to an article on the Los Angeles Times: "A poll of public school teachers finds that on average, high school students are assigned 3.5 hours of homework per weeknight, or more than 17 hours a week. Or that's the teachers' perspective, anyway."

So how does a quote that is in my opponents favor help me?

In college, you (may or may not) devote about the same amount of time to homework. The difference is that you get a lot more to do. In other words, instead of having to do one math assignment, you probably have to do more than twice that much. Being able to handle the amount of work you get in high school helps you prepare for the mountain of work you get when you get to college. If you can successfully time mange doing almost 4 hours of homework a night, then you are likely to be able to meet the longer deadlines you get in college for thrice the amount of homework. After all, life only gets harder from there

These are my reasons why homework should not be banned. I may hate doing homework but it helps us all in the long run do well in our education. If we didn't have homework, retaining information would be harder and we would likely not be prepared for stuff later in life.

Although my opponent has pretty much forfeited all points to me, I will let him respond anyhow and then we can get to the rebuttals.

Good Luck!

Sources:

http://psychologydictionary.org...
http://www.famouspsychologists.org...
https://drvcourt.files.wordpress.com...
https://loopa.co.uk...
http://www.districtadministration.com...
Debate Round No. 2
kumarkm

Pro

kumarkm forfeited this round.
OneSovietSoldier

Con

Extend

Vote Con! :D
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by OneSovietSoldier 9 months ago
OneSovietSoldier
*sigh* I pasted the images wrong.....

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Posted by JayShay 9 months ago
JayShay
"...A test showed that their is no correlation to students educational profile. This shows that if my opponent finds a correlation to education it will be invaild." Are you implying that just because the study was conducted at Harvard means that all other studies are invalid?

Also In the future you should incorporate direct links so that your opponent and readers can see the data for themselves.
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