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Harlan
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Nate
Con (against)
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15 Points

Homework is immoral on a deep level.

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Started: 10/29/2007 Category: Education
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Harlan

Pro

I am aware that most will dismiss arguments such as this (especially those without children) as the complaining of a child, but please take my arguments seriously.

School is difficult enough already (especially, for me, currently taking colledge credit classes in the eighth grade); It is the constant source of everyday stress for a child. Eight hours a day, 5 days a week, 9 months a year it is very demanding. From an idealistic standpoint (though I have paticular distaste for idealism), it educates the population whether they like it or not. I can see the necesity for school

Homework, however, is disgusting. In my opinion, when a child returns home, they should genuinely return home, they should have the ability to dissatatch from the stresses of the world that is school. They can't though. It looms over them all day.

There are things to be learned from having a personal life outside of school. It makes it difficult for them to do things as a family.
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Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
I do indeed learn from my homework. I just think that the time and place for such a thing is at school, and no where else. I am not so naieve as to be against schoolwork itself, but doing it at Home is not necessary.
Posted by lvisman96 9 years ago
lvisman96
True. I applaud your intelligence. Perhaps we can get right to the root of your argument. You state that your homework is a waste of time...do you learn anything from your homework ? Given your intelligence, it is quite possible that you are not learning anything new. In that case, it shouldn't take that long. What do you perceive your homework is for ?
Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
What would I do with my free time?

what am I doing right now?

I am having an intellectual conversation with you. give me some credit.
Posted by lvisman96 9 years ago
lvisman96
On the contrary. I retired at 40 because I studied, had good work habits, and worked hard. I have travelled, do martial arts, bodybuild, hike, bike, written a book, jumped out of an airplane-I could go on & on. Life is TOUGH, Harlan. You need every edge you can get. It is a fact that children's brains are more pliable than adults-everything I learned I learned when I was a kid. It's when we're most receptive. The philosophy of work hard now, enjoy it later has been replaced by "I want it now". What would you be doing with your 2-3 hours of free time if not homework ? Surfing the net ? Video games ? Talking on the phone ? or (God forbid) zoning on TV ? If you get 8 hours of sleep and 11 hours of school/homework time, what are you doing with those 5 extra hours ?If you are willing to take college courses to get ahead of the competition and homework is part of that, why wouldn't you want to ? Because it takes DISCIPLINE to self-study (homework). Do you NEED a teacher to hold ur hand?
Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
HA!

Your idea of "life" is work.

oh GOD the WORLD we live in!! That a person's idea of "life is getting to work on time, salaries, and money. Do you really know what "life" is?

Ah yes, Lets all get our children to get used to sitting for long periods of time and accepting authority, what else is thier in life?

Everyone seems to have misinterpreted my debate as singularly and selfishly talking about myself.

I REPRESENT ALL STUDENTS.
Posted by lvisman96 9 years ago
lvisman96
Hi Harlan. The fact is you are still a child. The 'work' you are referring to is child's play. When you're an adult, the real work will never end. Because of your age, you don't know anything else; to you, homework is 'work'. Ask any nurse who works 12-hour shifts, any waitress who works two jobs to raise her kids and pay the bills, any CEO of a company faced with declining profits and angry shareholders, what they think is harder, and you will get the same answer. You want to be prepared for your working years ? Well, you're getting a lesson in time management, efficiency and task completion, whether you know it or not. Life is filled with deadlines (such as getting your homework done every night). Salaried employees don't go home after 8 hours if the work is not done. Your inexperience is not your fault...you're young. You shouldn't bemoan the fact about homework..you want to take these classes so you won't have to later, then you should take everything that comes with it.
Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
I am taking these classes now, so I won't have to take them later.

It would not make a difference.

I am actually trying to decrease the amount of school that I go to in my lifetime. Not taking these classes would mean more work later on.
Posted by Harlan 9 years ago
Harlan
Nate, please post something. This is just absurd. You accepted the challenge.

I don't feel right winning because you forfieted in the opening argument.

come on.
Posted by lvisman96 9 years ago
lvisman96
I feel your pain, Harlan. You state, "Eight hours a day, 5 days a week, 9 months a year it is very demanding". Welcome to the world ! Most every adult does this, WITHOUT a three-month vacation ! In fact, Americans were the hardest-working (and most productive) people in the world according to a recent study. As such, many people take their work home with them after they leave. This is all 'being an adult' in America. I understand you're a child; however, why are you taking 'adult' (college) classes ? Perhaps you should take classes more suited to your AGE, not your intellect. Intelligence is only part of getting through life...you are experiencing the other parts of getting along in life...and perhaps you're not ready for it yet.
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